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Old 09-21-2014 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BrewCity
Plenty of pilots rampantly abuse their sick time. Do you want to get rid of paid sick leave too?
That is close to being a valid except that every airline has sick leave...
My preference would be to terminate any rampant abusers...
Sick? stay home....
Injured at work... OJI
Disabled.... collect LTD


want to get paid without working.... no.
Old 09-21-2014 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code
I'm on the LXJT side boss.
Doesn't sound like it! You don't speak for us so how about keeping your capitulation to yourself. Like I said I'm not giving an inch and all I fly with are on the same page; however, I don't speak for them so why don't we all, just wait till we get an agreement and go from there! With a vote!
Old 09-21-2014 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code
I'm on the LXJT side boss.
Doesn't sound like it! You don't speak for us so how about keeping your capitulation to yourself. Like I said I'm not giving an inch and all I fly with are on the same page; however, I don't speak for them so why don't we all, just wait till we get an agreement and go from there! With a vote!
It was a no vote from me Jimmy Hoffa. If you make your arguments in the cockpit like you do here, then people are probably agreeing just to get you to stop. Go to an LEC meeting and ask why LTD won't stay in its current form. The juice isn't worth the squeeze in keeping it and I'm not interested on burning negotiating capital on lifetime LTD.
Old 09-21-2014 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
That is close to being a valid except that every airline has sick leave...
My preference would be to terminate any rampant abusers...
Sick? stay home....
Injured at work... OJI
Disabled.... collect LTD


want to get paid without working.... no.
United has long term disability. Not all majors have long term disability. Do you think United should get rid of their long term disability?
Old 09-21-2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BrewCity
United has long term disability. Not all majors have long term disability. Do you think United should get rid of their long term disability?
I think United should have closed up and gone away right after US Air about 15 years ago...
Old 09-21-2014 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BrewCity
United has long term disability. Not all majors have long term disability. Do you think United should get rid of their long term disability?
Comparing a legacy to a FFD subcontractor is like comparing an apple to a duck billed platypus.
Old 09-22-2014 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
I think United should have closed up and gone away right after US Air about 15 years ago...
You didn't answer my question.
Old 09-22-2014 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by g-code
It was a no vote from me Jimmy Hoffa. If you make your arguments in the cockpit like you do here, then people are probably agreeing just to get you to stop. Go to an LEC meeting and ask why LTD won't stay in its current form. The juice isn't worth the squeeze in keeping it and I'm not interested on burning negotiating capital on lifetime LTD.
I'm not giving you my argument. I'm telling you that you, don't speak for anyone at this company. Its your opinion! Not fact! You might be OK with PBS, giving up LTD etc, etc, etc. I'm not end of story.
Old 09-22-2014 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
And that would be another no vote. Not giving a dime back, already did that and see what it got me. Nothing! Don't really care about you LASA guys and your perceived utopia with your PBS system. It's my belief that all on here have no idea what were have no talking about especially, that Capt Tony! Fricken smoke blower among other things. Sunday Morning quarterbacks wanna be's.
Funny how you don't care about the guys who saved your butt from being unemployed, now you are oblivious to the rest of the world and demand everything you had. Your boat sank because you had too much crap on it. Now you are sinking the LASA boat because you just don't get it.
I know there is a lot more to it, and I would really love it if we could all get great pay raises and keep great benefits, but in the regional world, when you have lots of other airlines that have lower paying contracts and worse QOL provisions, you have to look at the end result. Happy with what you have until they shut it down or remove enough of the no voters through attrition and cuts to get a yes on a TA. Or figure out what you would be happy with taking some cuts on. It is obviously very hard to take any kind of cut and each individual has different career expectations.
Old 09-22-2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code
It was a no vote from me Jimmy Hoffa. If you make your arguments in the cockpit like you do here, then people are probably agreeing just to get you to stop. Go to an LEC meeting and ask why LTD won't stay in its current form. The juice isn't worth the squeeze in keeping it and I'm not interested on burning negotiating capital on lifetime LTD.
I'd say the bold text is dead nuts on. We've all flown with "that guy"
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