Why are you even arguing about line bidding. We have already caved on that issue.

 

You guy's are idiots. Seriously, arguing about PBS? There are bigger fish to fry.... Pilot shortage at the regional legal, reduction in 50 seat lift. Do the math. Downsize in every regional that has crj 200 and ERJ 145 series. I mean come on. What do you provide that say, GoJets can't provide for less? We are contract carriers for mainline. They will almost always go with the ones that provide the most dollars for their shareholders

 

Seriously dude? I've read these forums for years and if I'm being perfectly honest i don't think you are making much of a positive contribution here if any. I mean that in the most sincere way possible. I think we can all lose site of things when the things that affect our lives most are discussed. I understand that these things matter. But both of our MECs have had YEARS to figure this stuff out. You have both failed us all and unfortunately that includes YOU. I guarantee you that us regular line pilots can get along fine both ASA and XJT. But if you guys can't complete the job you are elected to do then you should be removed. Period. There will be no company left to fight over. I don't understand why you don't get that. Meanwhile as a 3rd year FO I have seen ZERO career progression here. I think that is what's most frustrating to a lot of people. It honestly just gets old. I don't care who did what when on either MEC because that stuff doesn't matter now. You're so negative and condescending, it's hard for me to believe that you have the line pilots best interest in mind.

 

Gojo I agree with you 100percent on that. I have yet to argue on here about either.

 

If it was just the ASA side, this would already be completed. Most of the people on both sides are new and were put in after the failed TA. The ASA leadership is following the wishes of the ASA pilots. I can only assume that your MEC is following the wishes of the LXJT pilots.

What you fail to either admit, or understand, is that the company is absolutely unwilling to extend your Bfund and your LTD to the ASA side. As long as that proposal is still on the table, there will be no TA. Doesn't matter who you send into the negotiating room. Given that, what would you propose the two MECs do to bring this to a conclusion?

Why do you think there will be no company left to fight over?

 

It`s not to just the lasa but also other unionized groups at lasa and lxjt. Also SkywA pilots have a me too clause on a few items.

 

Absolutely correct. I was trying to keep things simple for some of these guys. When you extend both the Bfund and the LTD to all 20,000+ Inc. employees, the numbers become very large. I don't think people understand how large the numbers can get with these outliers.

 

I've said it twice now, the LXJT side knows that LTD is changing. They've said it in LEC meetings and explained why. I didn't ask about the direct contribution, but this argument that we are falling on our sword for LTD just isn't true.

Everyone needs to let the powers that be handle this. Everyone prefers the devil they know, but we really come together as a group after the vote. Throwing grenades at eachother here is only making it worse.

 

Does anything really matter now? Burn all the sick time, vacation time, file for STD. Burn baby burn. Disco inferno.......

 

And that would be another no vote. Not giving a dime back, already did that and see what it got me. Nothing! Don't really care about you LASA guys and your perceived utopia with your PBS system. It's my belief that all on here have no idea what were have no talking about especially, that Capt Tony! Fricken smoke blower among other things. Sunday Morning quarterbacks wanna be's.