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Old 09-23-2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
When you have others that rely on you, you don't but all your eggs in the xjt basket. Another way to look at it is, I have others who depend on what I get paid now and my QOL (days off), so don't go making this place worse for me by forcing concessions.

Seriously though, if you didn't have this as your only egg basket, how would you feel about concessions? That really is the way we should all think. Those are your true convictions. But it is easier for those of us who have a plan b.
This isn't the only egg in my basket....I made plan B and C after the dot.com bubble and 911....I still love my job and won't just give it up because you aren't happy. If this job isn't meeting your expectations and you have a plan B and C, then I expect you to exercise your plan B and C. However don't try and take me down with you because your plan A didn't work out your way....Those are fighting words and I will fight you...
Old 09-23-2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
This isn't the only egg in my basket....I made plan B and C after the dot.com bubble and 911....I still love my job and won't just give it up because you aren't happy. If this job isn't meeting your expectations and you have a plan B and C, then I expect you to exercise your plan B and C. However don't try and take me down with you because your plan A didn't work out your way....Those are fighting words and I will fight you...

Take you down with me? I thought Skywest was executing plan b without LXJT? Why would anything I say here take you down with me? I'm already convinced LXJT's best case scenario is a 100 aircraft fleet. More than likely, it will be gone in about 5 years with lots of pain every year til then. And I'm completely happy with that, thank you very much. I just stated that people should have a plan b and be ready to execute when it suits them and not a moment sooner. And that that's they way they should vote when the time comes. What's wrong with that? That's the only thing that will truly make you happy, living honestly by your convictions. I'm ok if your convictions tell you to save this job at the cost of concessions for the majority of others, even if I don't understand that defeatist mentality.
Old 09-24-2014 | 06:03 AM
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Is it better for the entire group, as well as our families, to have a job with a contract that has better pay and QOL while eliminating unrealistic outliers like LTD banks, vacation drop and pick up same trip for 150%, vacation low, B fund that nobody else has, etc...? What's wrong with that?
Old 09-24-2014 | 07:19 AM
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Any good news from the all pilot conference call last night?
Old 09-24-2014 | 08:13 AM
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Brad Holt is retiring.

Alexandria Marren from United is taking over.
Old 09-24-2014 | 08:14 AM
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And we have a new president, Alex Marren, an operations manager from UAL.
Old 09-24-2014 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
And we have a new president, Alex Marren, an operations manager from UAL.
Let the rumors begin!
Old 09-24-2014 | 08:43 AM
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Chip finally got the opportunity to axe Holt... those two never got along anyways.

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As far as Ms. Marren, she is a *former* employee of United. Her most recent gig was as a consultant for the Future Strategies Group, specializing in strategy in the areas of aviation, customer service, operations, emergency response, environmental affairs, labor relations, finance and security.

At United, Ms. Marren oversaw the Network Operations Center, the “nerve center” of the airline, including the functions of Flight Dispatch, Meteorology, and Operations Analysis; Security for the entire United enterprise; all daily operations of United Express, itself the largest airline by number of departures in the world, along with management of its relationships with 7 flying partners; and Emergency Response for all of United.
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Let the rumors begin!
UAL Seniority List staple effective today and flow!

haha we only wish.
Old 09-24-2014 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Is it better for the entire group, as well as our families, to have a job with a contract that has better pay and QOL while eliminating unrealistic outliers like LTD banks, vacation drop and pick up same trip for 150%, vacation low, B fund that nobody else has, etc...? What's wrong with that?
The problem with that thinking is, as the whole industry races to the bottom, pretty soon everything will be an outlier.

OJI banks are CRITICAL in this job. A simple injury can remove you from the cockpit for 3 months easily. In a normal job, a twisted ankle or knee keeps you of work for a week at most.

LTD is an insurance benefit which I pay for. The economy stinks, at least if I lose my ability to fly, I have supplement to replace some of my income while training for a new job. Lets keep it for LXJT, if ASA doesn't want it, fine.
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