Dunno. Why you askin me?

 

How can it undermine flight line when the work rules for smartpref havent even been negotiated yet? Anyway, what I'm specifically talking about is the pbs process agreement because someone asked specifically why we are still talking about PBS. The two MECs can agree to use any section of the failed ta, including things like alpa dues check off, filling of vacancies, leaves of absence. The ASA MEC decided to NOT agree to the previously agreed upon pbs process agreement. Thats the reason why we are still talking about pbs. Thats different than not having another TA yet.

You know that the two mecs can do whatever they want regardless of attorneys. Attorneys just give opinions. They do NOT have veto power over any MEC. The ONLY entity that has the authority to interpret the by-laws is the EC and NOBODY else. Its just an excuse. If the two parties agree to it, then there is no grieved or harmed party. Who is going to sue who and on what grounds since no one was harmed?


Ok, so lets say they do, would that be good enough for you? I'm looking for your specific opinion on it. To me, it seems like a very reasonable compromise, especially in order to get a JCBA done sooner rather than later.

And why is that? Really? What's the big deal? If we can get a JCBA with dual tracks, then whats the problem? They should just grandfather us so that no one has to take a concession!

Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. What I'm trying to say is thats its my belief that if the arbitrator rules against the pbs process agreement, then the only viable choice for the erj mec is to go with flight line since the asa mec isn't willing to consider anything else. But who knows, they may have some other idea.

I'm looking forward to this finally being put to bed. But somehow I don't believe it will be put to bed if the arbitrator rules in favor of the pbs process agreement. Am I right?

Ok, I must have misheard what was said. Or maybe they weren't talking about pure CDO lines. But I don't see why anyone couldn't get pure CDO lines if they are senior enough anyway?

I just qualified that statement because its what I thought I heard the scheduling committee chairman say. I could've easily misinterpreted.


My whole point in this is that both MECs are just doing what they feel is best for their respective pilot groups, as they should. So everyone needs to stop taking it personal when an mec does something that does not agree with the other side! There is a process in place to get this all resolved in due time. So lets see what happens. If fit starts to hit the shan, well, its the erj side who is going to take the brunt of it anyway, at least thats what is insinuated here over and over again. So whats the problem? We voted no by 83% knowing that they were going to do to the erj side what they are currently doing. So this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

 

I don't want to read this the wrong way so just want to make sure that when you mean "We" you are referring to both the ASA and XJT pilot group, right?

 

Yes! I can see how that came out the wrong way. Management told us all that we would have a stagnant fleet plan until we have a jcba. On the erj side, we've known that the schedule of lease expiration and subsequent parking of the aircraft was already past due. This wasn't a secret. Personally, I think most of us knew that our aircraft were going to be parked regardless.

 

Looks like a E145 cabin trainer is going into Flight Safety in ATL. I hear a 145 sim is going in as well. Getting it pulled out of IAH and sent to ATL. What gives with that? CRJ pilots flying ERJ's now?

 

Countless. This is why I don't get it. They've had 4 years to figure this out and they are still fighting over it. I'm all for looking out for your own pilot group, but this is ridiculous now.

 

Did you call Capt. Tony yet? He can explain it you. Let us know what you think after you talk to him.

 

I know they've been talking about selling one of the sims for years. Makes sense now since the fleet is shrinking. Eventually it won't make sense to continue leasing the training center in IAH from UAL anymore and all the sims will be sold. Training will be done through FSI just as the ASA pilots do now.

 

Also pulling the 700 for 2 new 900 sims.

 

Schoolhouse rumor?