Originally Posted by Hurryage65

Anyway...
This new checklist coming out what if we get it right before recurrent is there any grace period or what

Originally Posted by AtlCSIP

It depends on how they roll it out. For example, does anybody actually say 'stable', and does everybody know what I mean by that? Flew with a guy who looked at me and said "What's that? Some kind of new call out we're supposed to do?"

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

2 weeks. Feb 17th is when they will go out, along with an e-learning that will pay 5 minutes for 20 of video. Beginning of March is when they will go into use.



I do. I had a captain, who claims he wants to be in standards and knows the policies/FOM/OM, etc, who would always call out stable at 500', even though I said stable at 1000'. He didn't have a clue what he is doing with a lot of stuff. God help us if he every becomes a LCA.

Originally Posted by todd1200

Does that mean that, for example if everybody bids for Christmas off, at a certain point, the system recognizes that due to the ratio of pilots to open trips on the 25th, it cannot keep awarding schedules with Christmas off?[/QUOTE

I'm not sure if this is a serious question or not, but obviously every pilot cannot have Christmas off. The concern is how it not only handles that issue, but what control you have over that scenario. And the fact that a large group, possibly even the entire pilot group, will be awarded whatever the company wants and disregard all of your preferences, even if you are senior enough to hold Christmas off. Where as for us, we have some control over it (unstack bid sheet), there's a limit to who gets unstacked, and it's only 50% of line holders for a holiday month and 30% for non holiday month. Where as globalization can unstack every single pilot every single month if they want to. For example, if large amounts of pilots leave and we are short staffed (more so then we are now), there will be tons of open time and the company will just start ignoring your preferences to fill its needs, so you will have zero control over your schedule.

Some may argue that 50% of line holders is about 70 to 80% of the entire list for that seat and airplane, depending on reserve ratios, which isn't much better then globalization. However, we have more control over it. It doesn't mean that it will go all the way up to the limit, the union over sees it, and someone junior to you doesn't screw you over so that the bid is "fair." I guess there could be language written in to limit how many pilots can be restricted in a month, but it sill doesn't change the fact that if you are restricted, you have zero control over it. I'm not even sure if the Smartpref system would work with it being limited to how many pilots in can restrict.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

2 weeks. Feb 17th is when they will go out, along with an e-learning that will pay 5 minutes for 20 of video. Beginning of March is when they will go into use.



I do. I had a captain, who claims he wants to be in standards and knows the policies/FOM/OM, etc, who would always call out stable at 500', even though I said stable at 1000'. He didn't have a clue what he is doing with a lot of stuff. God help us if he every becomes a LCA.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

2 weeks. Feb 17th is when they will go out, along with an e-learning that will pay 5 minutes for 20 of video. Beginning of March is when they will go into use.



I do. I had a captain, who claims he wants to be in standards and knows the policies/FOM/OM, etc, who would always call out stable at 500', even though I said stable at 1000'. He didn't have a clue what he is doing with a lot of stuff. God help us if he every becomes a LCA.

Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

At 1000' imc, the PF says stable or unstable go around.

At 1000' vmc, the PF says stable or unstable and the deviation.

If it's vmc, the PM says stable at 500' or states unstable go around.

It looks like the LCA wannabe read the OM. 3-7.3.

Originally Posted by Tacos

Oh God help us is right! He thinks he is LCA material and he isn't even up to snuff on the "Stable" call.

Do you really think the people they have in standards are all perfect going in? Nobody is perfect on standardization. Usually the people who criticize the most about other people not being standard are the biggest hypocrites of them all.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

I'm not referring to VMC, I'm referring to IMC.



That's not the only thing. This is someone who argues with me about whats in the FOM, and when I asked him where it is, he can't find it and will "e-mail me" it when he does find it. Still waiting for that e-mail after 2 months and asking him a few times.

Originally Posted by Whiplash6

Announcing "stable" on an approach has got to be the most absurd thing they've ever asked us to do and have a hard time envisioning seeing any more than 50% of the pilot group ever actually verbalizing that call out any time in the future.