A computer does the ranking, not a recruiter. Fact: 121TPIC is more valuable than TSIC. Also, I highly doubt there is any weighting based on which company you worked for. Time at XJT, ENY, TSA, GJ, SKW is exactly the same.

 

CBreezy is probably correct. Additionally, I've heard that the sweet spot for Civilian pilots is around 7000-8000 hours, so the aforementioned 2000tt lucky 121 PIC pilot doesn't really have a chance at a major yet.

 

A computer draws application based on criteria input by the carrier. Just because it draws you application with 3000 TT and 200 TPIC, the recruiters that LOOK at it, can and most likely WILL turn it down when they see you are regional hopping for quick upgrades and fast PIC time.

Even if you do get the interview, you still have to impress them to get the job, Mainline prefers quality over quantity, so jumping regionals and spending a year or 2 at each trying to hop on the bandwagon will most likely sabotage your interview. The last thing they want to do is hire someone who will jump ship whenever a seemingly better opportunity arises. remember they are paying for your type rating and investing in you. they want to get their moneys worth...


"Time at XJT, ENY, TSA, GJ, SKW is exactly the same." I believe this to be wrong. it will be weighted at the interview...if they decide to bring you in. There IS a quality of FO at certain airlines, fyi. I've heard from multiple recruiters, they know the quality of pilot at xjt/asa is very high due to our intensive training program. that's not to say that PSA and TSA guys aren't great pilots, I'm sure there are some, but certain airlines are respected and regarded higher than others...and that does make some difference, such as military is weighted more than civilian...(which makes no sense, when we do the EXACT job they are hiring for)

 

I've heard the same from many folks at UAL and DAL.. Yes the computer gets you the interview but people make the final decision.

 

I don't think the majors will be too worried about anyone "jumping ship" at that point. Lets face it, when you get there that most likely is the last stop for your flying career. While I think our training department is high quality, I don't think we have all that more intensive training than any other regional. TPIC still matters no matter what we try to tell ourselves.

 

This wins the Internet today. Well said.

 

Really? Which major airline hiring department do you work for? Also, how many of them do you know that actively say "those XJT pilots, man can they fly that autopilot all good."

You want to know facts? Mesa and GJ pilots have been hired at the majors. How does that fit into your theory?

 

The arrogance surrounding that comment is almost overwhelming. From having XJT guys on the jumpseat it sounds like your "intensive" training program is pretty lengthy and drawn out. I'd rather work for a place that gives you the info, expects you to study it on your own, and will boot someone's ass out the door if they aren't studying on their own. Easy way to weed out some of the lazy slob future captains that are responsible for the safety of the airplane.

As far as being so "intensive", ever heard of being asked "Have you ever had any 121 failures, except at XJT/ASA? If you have one there you're fine" in a major interview? …. Doubtful.

Keep puffing that chest out though...

 

I dont think he said they haven't. Calm down a little.

 

I believe you worded that poorly/incorrectly.

Because if you take a sampling of the new hires at (insert legacy airline here), the majority of pilots in the civilian demographic have TPIC time. Sure, they hire pilots with no TPIC. But on average, they are STILL in the minority of new hires. I know, I know, some guy is gonna come on here and say "but.......but........my buddy said ALL the guys in his new hire class were all FO's!!!!!!!!". Sure, maybe, but the average since OTS hiring began would dictate differently, WAY DIFFERENTLY.

When the amount of new hires at (insert legacy airline here) have 0 TPIC while there's STILL 1000's of apps in the stack with TPIC, THEN your statement would be valid. But for here and now, "0 121 TPIC" is not valued "over" guys with thousands of it.

Boxes checked that represent the "total person", connections, affiliations, whatever come into play to filter through the selection/app screen process.