What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#3561
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Joined: Mar 2009
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From: A320
There is way too much loose language in our current contract and too heavy a "working relationship" with management to believe it will all just disappear suddenly in one contract. How many sales pitches does this pilot group need to fall for to realize we get scammed every single time without having the hard language to back it up? Everything that gave the company discretion has been exploited and abused. Remember PBS was going to result in 10% reserve staffing? Remember how unstacking was only there for extremely rare abnormalities and maybe a holiday month if necessary*? now it's used because we dont have the staffing to operate our block hours. When there is a TA everyone needs to sit down and thoroughly read it on their own somewhere quiet and not listen to the sales pitches in the crew lounges, because most of them dont have to fly and be exploited by the loopholes they sign.
#3562
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Joined: Sep 2012
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From: FO
I'm voting no unless everytime I get an IROP email I'm contractually obligated to kick someone from management in the balls, ill settle for a scheduler if I'm in a good mood
#3564
Speaking of, I'll never understand how the company decides if they want/need to declare irop. About a week ago they declared IROP in ATL and DTW with no thunderstorm within miles and no ATC programs for those airports, and they didn't declare one today when DTW had departure delays and ATL and ground stop. Am I missing something???
#3565
Speaking of, I'll never understand how the company decides if they want/need to declare irop. About a week ago they declared IROP in ATL and DTW with no thunderstorm within miles and no ATC programs for those airports, and they didn't declare one today when DTW had departure delays and ATL and ground stop. Am I missing something???
#3566
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Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Reclined seat
Speaking of, I'll never understand how the company decides if they want/need to declare irop. About a week ago they declared IROP in ATL and DTW with no thunderstorm within miles and no ATC programs for those airports, and they didn't declare one today when DTW had departure delays and ATL and ground stop. Am I missing something???
#3567
But the problem is that a good 40% of the combined list know they are never leaving this place for various reasons (age, seniority, finances, family, etc). So they will do whatever it takes to keep it afloat until they can retire. Most of these same people are also well into 6 figures, and a 5 or 6k pay cut isn't going to break them like the company folding would. We call these people "scared lifers".
Risk/reward says keep the current job.... Where's my YES vote...
#3568
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Joined: Sep 2009
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Once again, Joey shows why he's what's wrong with this industry. "I've got mine so even if it screws else, I'll ride this fat ugly pig to the end no matter how bad it gets for everyone else."
All because he got shot down by the majors years ago and is now a bitter, over-the-hill, scared lifer.
The better attitude would be I'll stand my ground to make this a decent place to work since I want to finish my time here, not I'll take whatever scraps they'll give me so I can further the race to the bottom, even in a pilot shortage.
#3569
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Joined: Mar 2009
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From: A320
But the problem is that a good 40% of the combined list know they are never leaving this place for various reasons (age, seniority, finances, family, etc). So they will do whatever it takes to keep it afloat until they can retire. Most of these same people are also well into 6 figures, and a 5 or 6k pay cut isn't going to break them like the company folding would. We call these people "scared lifers".
Risk/reward says keep the current job.... Where's my YES vote...
#3570
Senior captains may believe they make too much, and need to take paycuts and work more in order preserve ExpressJet's viability, but I doubt many FOs or junior captains share that sentiment. And if this place can't attract and retain pilots, who's gonna sit in the right seat? You can't be "senior" if everyone below you leaves.
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