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Old 08-08-2013 | 02:34 PM
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Taking a look at the expressjet executive compensation, it appears we are doing pretty darn well as a company to me. I truly appreciate what Brad has done here, but does anyone else find it pretty questionable if they are crying concessions in the midst of enormous exec raises?

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Old 08-08-2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MikefromMT
Taking a look at the expressjet executive compensation, it appears we are doing pretty darn well as a company to me. I truly appreciate what Brad has done here, but does anyone else find it pretty questionable if they are crying concessions in the midst of enormous exec raises?

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Of course nobody wants to mention the very large pay cut every one of them took in 2011 when each of us got a raise. If you look at the raise from 2010 to 2012, the percentages aren't so out of line. I am not suggesting we take a pay cut, but to be fair, we should realize that they did.
Old 08-08-2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Of course nobody wants to mention the very large pay cut every one of them took in 2011 when each of us got a raise. If you look at the raise from 2010 to 2012, the percentages aren't so out of line. I am not suggesting we take a pay cut, but to be fair, we should realize that they did.
What percentage accounts for the raise that we received as opposed to the percentage pay cut that they took? Also, what percentage raise did they just take for themselves?
Old 08-08-2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
Every pilot except for the very senior guys works quite a bit more than 40 hours per week. I consider all TAFB as "work" so if you do 4 days that's 80+ per week.
I hear ya. I had a three day a few weeks ago that was about 42 hours duty. Not a part time job for me.
Old 08-09-2013 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Of course nobody wants to mention the very large pay cut every one of them took in 2011 when each of us got a raise. If you look at the raise from 2010 to 2012, the percentages aren't so out of line. I am not suggesting we take a pay cut, but to be fair, we should realize that they did.
Well they more than made up for it with his raise this year. Looks like Brad got retro pay. So they have no excuse not to give us retro pay. Yet one more reason to vote no.
Old 08-09-2013 | 05:03 AM
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The question is... do you REALLY need 1.1 million a year? Its not like your previous jobs paid so little to make up for it. That's like 50 new hire F/Os or 30 upgrades.
Old 08-09-2013 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by yimke
The question is... do you REALLY need 1.1 million a year? Its not like your previous jobs paid so little to make up for it. That's like 50 new hire F/Os or 30 upgrades.
Whenever I hear someone opining whether someone "needs" a certain amount I am reminded of this quote:

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."

So do you really "need" a new truck? There are people out there walking to work. Do you really "need" a bigger house? A boat?

You see, there are a lot of things that we as ordinary pilots don't really need, just like CEOs don't "need" $1.1 million in compensation. We are arguing about degrees. Who do you think should be the arbiter of what a person "needs?"
Old 08-09-2013 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Of course nobody wants to mention the very large pay cut every one of them took in 2011 when each of us got a raise. If you look at the raise from 2010 to 2012, the percentages aren't so out of line. I am not suggesting we take a pay cut, but to be fair, we should realize that they did.
BH averaged $823,007/yr over the last 5 (36% more than 2008) and $874,239/yr for the 2 years AFTER his pay cut (44.4% above 2008).

I dont even need a 44% increase. 7% a year will be fine.
There's my concession. You're welcome Surejet, glad I could help.
Old 08-09-2013 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by makersmarc
Whenever I hear someone opining whether someone "needs" a certain amount I am reminded of this quote:

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."

So do you really "need" a new truck? There are people out there walking to work. Do you really "need" a bigger house? A boat?

You see, there are a lot of things that we as ordinary pilots don't really need, just like CEOs don't "need" $1.1 million in compensation. We are arguing about degrees. Who do you think should be the arbiter of what a person "needs?"
Um... that's Karl Marx. Are you really advocating Communism? In defense of management? With an Abraham Lincoln avatar? I'm so confused.

I like this one better:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." - Abraham Lincoln
Old 08-09-2013 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Um... that's Karl Marx. Are you really advocating Communism? In defense of management? With an Abraham Lincoln avatar? I'm so confused.

I like this one better:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." - Abraham Lincoln
Beat me to it. Most forget what this country was truly built on.
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