What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
08-20-2013 | 04:54 AM
#4111
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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other. I hope that you guys can get the best contract possible, but for a pilot group that wants skywest pilots to back them The dumb "mainline" comments and skypest on the radio are not helping make your point. Most guys don't look at these boards, and these guys could really help or hurt relations between the companies.
So you're saying if we start being nice to you guys and stop making wisecracks about Moroni and Mainline, you'll let us on your list with our current seniority? That's AWESOME!!!
08-20-2013 | 05:13 AM
#4112
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Lmao
How about NO!
How about NO!
08-20-2013 | 06:16 AM
#4113
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From: Broke
I'm saying if you start acting like adults and being professional you might help your case but the degrading of half of your company is childish, but you're obviously to junivile to see that.
08-20-2013 | 07:44 AM
#4114
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From: Right Seat Gear Swinger
The other half of our company? Pshhh. Most Skywest pilots walk around with their noses to the ceiling. I once tried to start a conversation with a SKW guy that was standing next to me waiting on a commute... his response was "oh you work for XJT"... he wouldnt even speak to me after that. Even my friends who work there have this "holier than thou" attitude. Get over yourselves.
08-20-2013 | 07:49 AM
#4115
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From: Right Seat Gear Swinger
Why did they buy what? SKW bought ASA because it was (then) a cash cow. We pumped a lot of money into SKW Inc. Then came the 2010 DAL "rate reset" where DAL gave ASA a 40% pay cut. No more profits. Then SKW bought XJT, claiming its "synergistic economies of scale" would save ASA. In reality, they wanted to corner the market on regional flying for The New United. They tossed a hail mary for an incomplete pass. Now they will shut this place down, and they will rehire everyone at SkyWest Mainline. I give this process 2-5 years.
08-20-2013 | 07:55 AM
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The other half of our company? Pshhh. Most Skywest pilots walk around with their noses to the ceiling. I once tried to start a conversation with a SKW guy that was standing next to me waiting on a commute... his response was "oh you work for XJT"... he wouldnt even speak to me after that. Even my friends who work there have this "holier than thou" attitude. Get over yourselves.
08-20-2013 | 08:40 AM
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But sorry for being so juvenile when it comes to my pay and quality of life. Thanks for the lecture oh wise one.
08-20-2013 | 10:11 AM
#4118
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Other half of my company? One half of MY company is ASA, the other half is ExpressJet. You work for SkyWest Airlines, a non union carrier which is being whipsawed against my company in order to undermine my union contract. Pilots who go to work for a non union company which exists solely to whipsaw a union company owned by the same holding company are only one short step from being a "crusty dried wound" in my opinion.
But sorry for being so juvenile when it comes to my pay and quality of life. Thanks for the lecture oh wise one.
But sorry for being so juvenile when it comes to my pay and quality of life. Thanks for the lecture oh wise one.
1. Failure by ALPA to implement brand scope over a decade ago when they had the opportunity...That ship has sailed and we now must deal with the consequences of ALPA's failure.
2. The Pinnacle/Endeavor contract....Not the SkyWest pay and workrules, but an ALPA negotiated and signed contract is putting the new pressure on our contract.
3. Our "brothers" over on the LXJT side with their silly PBS game they have been playing which dragged this out so that the concessions given by Eagle and Pinnacle now factor into "pattern bargaining".....Brilliant move by the LXJT children.
Blaming the SkyWest folks for a mess that is largely ALPA's doing is silly...Your starting to sound like Nevets.....
08-20-2013 | 10:25 AM
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Time out Cpt Tony....The SkyWest pilots aren't to blame for this mess we find ourselves in. The 4 main reasons are:
1. Failure by ALPA to implement brand scope over a decade ago when they had the opportunity...That ship has sailed and we now must deal with the consequences of ALPA's failure.
2. The Pinnacle/Endeavor contract....Not the SkyWest pay and workrules, but an ALPA negotiated and signed contract is putting the new pressure on our contract.
[By the way, management has told our negotiators our main competitor is SkyWest Airlines. They have not asked us to match Pinnacle or GoJets (yet)]
3. Our "brothers" over on the LXJT side with their silly PBS game they have been playing which dragged this out so that the concessions given by Eagle and Pinnacle now factor into "pattern bargaining".....Brilliant move by the LXJT children.
Blaming the SkyWest folks for a mess that is largely ALPA's doing is silly...Your starting to sound like Nevets.....
1. Failure by ALPA to implement brand scope over a decade ago when they had the opportunity...That ship has sailed and we now must deal with the consequences of ALPA's failure.
2. The Pinnacle/Endeavor contract....Not the SkyWest pay and workrules, but an ALPA negotiated and signed contract is putting the new pressure on our contract.
[By the way, management has told our negotiators our main competitor is SkyWest Airlines. They have not asked us to match Pinnacle or GoJets (yet)]
3. Our "brothers" over on the LXJT side with their silly PBS game they have been playing which dragged this out so that the concessions given by Eagle and Pinnacle now factor into "pattern bargaining".....Brilliant move by the LXJT children.
Blaming the SkyWest folks for a mess that is largely ALPA's doing is silly...Your starting to sound like Nevets.....
08-20-2013 | 10:36 AM
#4120
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
ALPA and DAL Management worked together to cornhole all us DCI pilots. Then you guys make offhanded references to cutting inefficient planes and carriers. These are lives you're talking about. Pilots with houses and families and kids. I'm sure you think all regional pilots are pimply faced ERAU grads under 25, but your groups hijack of the age 65 thing left most of us here a lot longer than we intended. So maybe you shouldn't be so cavalier about talking of eliminating "inefficient regionals". Unless it's really all about you and your profits (like an arrogant skygod).
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