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Old 08-21-2013 | 02:54 PM
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Old 08-21-2013 | 03:09 PM
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Last week we made the difficult decision to cancel the Best of the Best awards and other programs because of our current financial position and our struggle to become profitable. As you know, in the first quarter of 2013 ExpressJet posted a significant quarterly loss followed by a second quarter loss. High costs coupled with lower-than-expected performance lead to lower revenue and decreased incentives paid to us by our major partners, which means that we are continuing to lose money at a time we had planned to be in a much stronger financial position. Because of our financial position we have elected to curtail spending on programs that do not directly relate to the safety and/or operational performance of our airline. It is clear that a lot of work remains ahead to improve our performance and to become profitable.


Good! Now take that money you saved on these "feel good" programs and buy the maintenance department some damn parts so we can fix some planes. I'm tired of flying broken airplanes with a laundry list of MELs and sitting at outstations waiting on parts from ATL.
Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
Old 08-21-2013 | 05:45 PM
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Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
Whoa wait a second...

Didn't the Skywest CFO say the XJT side made money in the second quarter in the teleconference?!?!
Old 08-21-2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Come on. Look what a cluster RAH is. Eagle gave up huge concessions and a 14 year contract to combine 4 and it got them nowhere. Pinnacle crashed and burned. We're next. Regional bargaining power is only a fantasy when you don't own the code and your name isn't on the tail. Bigger doesn't solve anything.
You think that having four different airlines being whipsawed by AA is good? Or Mesa and Freedom being whipsawed against each other as good? Or Republic, CHQ, and Shuttle America being whipsawed as good? I guess TSA, Gojet, and Compass are better off. Yeah, those who combined pilot lists had to sacrifice in order to do it. But we are all better off for it. If you don't believe that then you are the moron. Now, don't confuse what I said as saying that everything is all rosy at all those places.
Old 08-22-2013 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by yimke
Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
Still, to say that these employees were getting an award and then taking back part of it....a bit classless to me.

Originally Posted by MoarAlpha
Whoa wait a second...

Didn't the Skywest CFO say the XJT side made money in the second quarter in the teleconference?!?!
Also, wouldn't Brads recent raise more than cover all of the programs? Gotta wonder how much of this is a pony show for the negotiations.
Old 08-22-2013 | 04:01 AM
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Old 08-22-2013 | 04:59 AM
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They cancelled the awards and cried poor because they have to create the illusion that we are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Wake me up when everyone in management takes a 40% pay cut and they start running the company from SGU. Until then, it's all negotiations motivated window dressing.

And I promise they told everyone in the GO that they cancelled it because those greedy pilots get paid too much.
Old 08-22-2013 | 06:01 AM
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They cancelled the awards and cried poor because they have to create the illusion that we are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.
No we are not on the edge of bankruptcy, but with another rate reset by Delta coming soon, they might threaten to shut us down when we really start bleeding money. Inc cannot declare bankruptcy without dragging SkyWest Airlines down with us. They cannot transfer assets without bringing on merger proceedings. So what would you do if you were JA or BR?

Is there anything stopping them from shutting us down? Is there any historical precedent where a holding company has 2 subsidiaries - one profitable and one not making money - and they shut down the unprofitable subsidiary?
Old 08-22-2013 | 06:31 AM
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I just pray that unlike pinnacle, we at Expressjet have the balls (no offense, ladies) to stand up and say that if you expect us to continue the race to the bottom, you'll have to find someone else to cave in. I'd really rather go find another career than aid management in gutting this one any further. And for those that say its easy to talk tough until its my paycheck on the line, I hope I get the chance to put my money and my vote where my mouth is. If those before us (pinnacle/endeavor) had done so, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And oh, by the way, management. Good luck trying to fill regional cockpits now that you've made this job so unattractive, you can't even consistently fill new hire classes...
Old 08-22-2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by berge7f9
No we are not on the edge of bankruptcy, but with another rate reset by Delta coming soon
I've heard the rate reset went away when we agreed to this latest 2 for 1 airplane swap. Anyone else?
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