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Old 11-19-2013 | 02:57 PM
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Should be an interesting read..
Old 11-19-2013 | 03:09 PM
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I am voting NO. Why accept their first offer?
Old 11-19-2013 | 03:24 PM
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So much for standing up for our pilots, reps. Knowing small examples of the backwards steps being taken by our "super regional" with this TA is enough for me to say "absolutely not."
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Does anyone remember the last time a pilot contract was voted down after the MEC's passed to the pilot group?

I've been around since 98 and I cant seen to remember one.

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Old 11-19-2013 | 04:04 PM
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Should be interesting... I wonder why our union leaders, both legacy E and A, would push this through if it was so bad... I guess we better listen up over the next month or so. Remember, what ever we get, we will end up working for the 8-10 years with.
Old 11-19-2013 | 05:02 PM
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does anyone remember the last time a pilot contract was voted down after the mec's passed to the pilot group?

I've been around since 98 and i cant seen to remember one.

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Old 11-19-2013 | 05:17 PM
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So as for the statement in the earnings call to the effect of We really haven't seen any major attrition yet, no real numbers...

Just got this from FAPA.aero, a statement from ExpressJet:

Losing about 31 per month due to attrition (189 through June). 73 pilots in October with plans to hire 88 in November, December and January. Verified by FAPA on 17 NOV 2013
I suspect the numbers we're losing is higher than that
Old 11-19-2013 | 10:57 PM
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"We understand that there will be a lot of questions about this tentative agreement, and we are sure you are eager to see the contract".

This quote in the email blew my mind. Seems a littlle presumptuous. I'm pretty sure a contract has to be passed by the pilot group. If they had said "a" contract that would have at least made a little sense if we didn't know what was coming. But no, I'm not eager to see their so called "the contract".
Old 11-19-2013 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I am voting NO. Why accept their first offer?
Don't do that. It is a silly uneducated thing to say/do. Whatever the contract has in it, Read it first. Then go to the road shows ask your questions. But don't make up your mind before that. Also, remember to compare it to every other regional contract out there as well because although it may not be as good as you want it still may be the highest floating turd in the bowl. Then if you don't like it, proudly vote it down with rock solid reasons as to why you choose to do that.
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Originally Posted by BricksWithWings
Don't do that. It is a silly uneducated thing to say/do. Whatever the contract has in it, Read it first. Then go to the road shows ask your questions. But don't make up your mind before that. Also, remember to compare it to every other regional contract out there as well because although it may not be as good as you want it still may be the highest floating turd in the bowl. Then if you don't like it, proudly vote it down with rock solid reasons as to why you choose to do that.
No need to compare to other regionals. If it is worse than current contract i'll vote NO. No need to go to road show either if that's the case. If some of the rumors are true, then it's an easy no.
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