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Old 11-08-2013, 02:08 PM
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Not if it's concessionary!
It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:02 PM
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It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.

Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.

An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:14 PM
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Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.

Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.

An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
crflyer, your side created this mess by trying to dictate the conditions.....We would have been done before the concessionary Eagle, Endeavor, and PSA agreements if your junior birdmen running your MEC hadn't come in like bulls in a china shop.

The market has changed, and you can go ahead and pretend they haven't if it makes you feel better....but that won't alter the reality of our current situation.

Keep thumping your chest...eventually it will hurt...
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:43 PM
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The market has changed, and you can go ahead and pretend they haven't if it makes you feel better....but that won't alter the reality of our current situation.

Keep thumping your chest...eventually it will hurt...
Like I said. Even if it does, SO BE IT. I'm not going to help drag things down even further.
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:45 PM
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Like I said. Even if it does, SO BE IT. I'm not going to help drag things down even further.
You took a job at a fee for departure regional....You already did help drag things down further..Thanks for playing...
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:58 PM
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You took a job at a fee for departure regional....You already did help drag things down further..Thanks for playing...
I said even further
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I said even further
So if it passes, will you quit? Make a real statement and quit....That would go further than voting no...
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Old 11-08-2013, 06:05 PM
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It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
All 3 sides created the delay.
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant View Post
It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
You guys keep saying that the ERJ side if the house kept delaying this contract and that's why you are loosing flying and haven't been able to land new flying... But look around, Mesa is I contract negotiations and got new flying, Republic is I contract negotiations and got new flying and SKW who doesn't have EJets in their pay and is asking the pilots to work with he company (concessions) got flying awarded. Meanwhile companies that have gotten new contracts have been asked for concessions shortly after. PSA, Eagle and Pinnacle.
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Originally Posted by crflyer View Post
Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.

Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.

An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
There is no way we are going to vote before the rest rules kick in. Plus, I believe we are adaquately staffed for it. (As of now). However if we see mass attrition due to the big 3 hiring. Forget it.
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