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Old 11-08-2013 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
More specifically it is an agreement without final language or MEC approval. It'll be a TA if they vote to send it to the members, which is by no means guaranteed.
After all this time, it would be nice to at least see it.
Old 11-08-2013 | 01:19 PM
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After all this time, it would be nice to at least see it.
There's nothing to see yet. I truly prefer waiting for final contract language. I've seen bullet point summaries significantly misrepresent the actual contract language in the past.
Old 11-08-2013 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
More specifically it is an agreement without final language or MEC approval. It'll be a TA if they vote to send it to the members, which is by no means guaranteed.
After all this time, it would be nice to at least see it.
Not if it's concessionary!
Old 11-08-2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Not if it's concessionary!
Dude, you are way worse than our clown cattn tony. Do you ever take a break from the web?

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Old 11-08-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Not if it's concessionary!
It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
Old 11-08-2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
It's only concessionary for your side....and since your side created the delay....
Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.

Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.

An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
Old 11-08-2013 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.

Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.

An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
crflyer, your side created this mess by trying to dictate the conditions.....We would have been done before the concessionary Eagle, Endeavor, and PSA agreements if your junior birdmen running your MEC hadn't come in like bulls in a china shop.

The market has changed, and you can go ahead and pretend they haven't if it makes you feel better....but that won't alter the reality of our current situation.

Keep thumping your chest...eventually it will hurt...
Old 11-08-2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant

The market has changed, and you can go ahead and pretend they haven't if it makes you feel better....but that won't alter the reality of our current situation.

Keep thumping your chest...eventually it will hurt...
Like I said. Even if it does, SO BE IT. I'm not going to help drag things down even further.
Old 11-08-2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
Like I said. Even if it does, SO BE IT. I'm not going to help drag things down even further.
You took a job at a fee for departure regional....You already did help drag things down further..Thanks for playing...
Old 11-08-2013 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
You took a job at a fee for departure regional....You already did help drag things down further..Thanks for playing...
I said even further
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