What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
11-08-2013 | 05:01 PM
#4581
Gets Weekends Off
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
11-09-2013 | 03:51 AM
#4583
Underpaid...
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From: French-Canadian
You guys keep saying that the ERJ side if the house kept delaying this contract and that's why you are loosing flying and haven't been able to land new flying... But look around, Mesa is I contract negotiations and got new flying, Republic is I contract negotiations and got new flying and SKW who doesn't have EJets in their pay and is asking the pilots to work with he company (concessions) got flying awarded. Meanwhile companies that have gotten new contracts have been asked for concessions shortly after. PSA, Eagle and Pinnacle.
11-09-2013 | 05:31 AM
#4584
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From: PNF
Yeah... that's really sad, Joe.
Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.
An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
Regardless - they're probably in a hurry to TRY to get a yes vote before the new rest rules. No way. Nobody should consider voting yes before seeing what effect this will have on our monthly pay. Duty rigs will be crucial.
An airline providing the majority of lift for two majors isn't going to simply fold if they don't get us to take concessions. Even if it does, it'll take time and so be it. This company does not need concessions from its frontline employees. Period.
11-09-2013 | 08:16 AM
#4585
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From: EMB 145 CPT
You guys keep saying that the ERJ side if the house kept delaying this contract and that's why you are loosing flying and haven't been able to land new flying... But look around, Mesa is I contract negotiations and got new flying, Republic is I contract negotiations and got new flying and SKW who doesn't have EJets in their pay and is asking the pilots to work with he company (concessions) got flying awarded. Meanwhile companies that have gotten new contracts have been asked for concessions shortly after. PSA, Eagle and Pinnacle.
11-09-2013 | 07:23 PM
#4586
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From: Delta Gear Slinger
I can't believe you kids are still at each others' throats. We have an AIP that none of you have seen any details, and you can't help but fight with each other. We are one happy family now. Get over it and get off the computer and enjoy your lives. 
11-10-2013 | 04:06 PM
#4587
CA
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From: I am the Captain now...
If there are concessions involved, it's going to be a no vote from me.
11-11-2013 | 04:21 AM
#4588
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I'm hearing that management stormed in and told the MECs that if they didn't TA/ratify this agreement, 66 CRJ-200s/660 pilots are on the street. Apparently the entire ASA MEC cowered in fear but only 3 of the XJT reps voted yes. AIP reached. No paycuts, 1% raises, with no signing bonus (!). Everything previously discussed conceded on the XJT side, minor reserve improvements for ASA, and vacay low still exists, but only for 1 month, not both when vacation straddles months. IPs apparently get a large bump.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
Last edited by Captain Tony; 11-11-2013 at 04:36 AM. Reason: More information
11-11-2013 | 04:43 AM
#4589
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From: The right seat
I'm hearing that management stormed in and told the MECs that if they didn't TA/ratify this agreement, 66 CRJ-200s/660 pilots are on the street. Apparently the entire ASA MEC cowered in fear but only 3 of the XJT reps voted yes. AIP reached. No paycuts, 1% raises, with no signing bonus (!). Everything previously discussed conceded on the XJT side, minor reserve improvements for ASA, and vacay low still exists, but only for 1 month, not both when vacation straddles months. IPs apparently get a large bump.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
11-11-2013 | 05:31 AM
#4590
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I'll bite anyhow. In case you haven't heard, RA has been blabbing for months now that Delta plans to park some 150 50 seat airplanes as soon as they possibly can.
And I don't think it will hurt the bottom line of SkyWest Inc. if the XJT division shrinks, considering they released numbers just last week that would claim the SkyWest Airlines division is propping up the company all on its own. Not that I believe those numbers at face value...
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