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Old 08-19-2013, 06:30 PM
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Any pilot on the property at both sides that DOES NOT have his sick bank at ZERO is a FOOL!!!!!

Put a torch to all sick time NOW!!!!!! Stick the RED FLAG up their Jack-Asses!!!
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:36 PM
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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other. I hope that you guys can get the best contract possible, but for a pilot group that wants skywest pilots to back them The dumb "mainline" comments and skypest on the radio are not helping make your point. Most guys don't look at these boards, and these guys could really help or hurt relations between the companies.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:48 PM
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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other.
In that case Burn it to the Ground. The only way I will take a cut here is if there is some sort of equal division of future flying between SKYW, ASA, and XJT to lessen the effect of the whipsaw. Fair Enough?
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:13 PM
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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other. I hope that you guys can get the best contract possible, but for a pilot group that wants skywest pilots to back them The dumb "mainline" comments and skypest on the radio are not helping make your point. Most guys don't look at these boards, and these guys could really help or hurt relations between the companies.
Is that the new excuse now? Who cares if someone says Skywest mainline or Skypest or whatever else hurts your sensibilities. Despite all that, if you don't know that the current situation adversely affects both sides, then THAT is what hurting our relations. If you guys decide to make SAPA your NMB recognized bargaining agent and demand one list in negotiations, we would all have the upper hand!

Skywest pilots! Do you honestly want to Stop The Whipsaw (STW)? If you do, then NOTHING LESS than one list will not suffice! If you are not for one list, the you do not want to stop the whipsaw and you continue to be the problem to this segment of the industry.

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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other.
In that case Burn it to the Ground. The only way I will take a cut here is if there is some sort of equal division of future flying between SKYW, ASA, and XJT to lessen the effect of the whipsaw. Fair Enough?
NO NOT FAIR ENOUGH! The only way to prevent the whipsaw is to have ONE LIST. Why settle for ANYTHING less? Otherwise they will loophole us into continued whipsaw. Either you are genuine about burning it down or not with this half a$$ crap.

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Old 08-19-2013, 07:57 PM
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Being that 30 % of our pilot group is ex alpa that will be a hard sell on this side.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:52 AM
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If the plan is to shut this place down, then why did they buy it? Did they honestly expect that over 4000 pilots would take concessions? Even if they bought ASA/XJT for the contracts they had, then how do they expect to cover the flying if they want us shut down? Even with less aircraft the pilots are already hard to find. SKYW doesnt have the pilots to cover all our flying and all those 175s arent going to come online for awhile yet. Shut it down if you want... good luck with that. I know I won't be going to "mainline". It'll be time to put the ole business degree to use.
Why did they buy what? SKW bought ASA because it was (then) a cash cow. We pumped a lot of money into SKW Inc. Then came the 2010 DAL "rate reset" where DAL gave ASA a 40% pay cut. No more profits. Then SKW bought XJT, claiming its "synergistic economies of scale" would save ASA. In reality, they wanted to corner the market on regional flying for The New United. They tossed a hail mary for an incomplete pass. Now they will shut this place down, and they will rehire everyone at SkyWest Mainline. I give this process 2-5 years.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:54 AM
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Skywest will never let Skywest merge with expressjet and ASA. They will always try to play the pilot groups against each other. I hope that you guys can get the best contract possible, but for a pilot group that wants skywest pilots to back them The dumb "mainline" comments and skypest on the radio are not helping make your point. Most guys don't look at these boards, and these guys could really help or hurt relations between the companies.
OMG I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!

So you're saying if we start being nice to you guys and stop making wisecracks about Moroni and Mainline, you'll let us on your list with our current seniority? That's AWESOME!!!
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:16 AM
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OMG I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!

So you're saying if we start being nice to you guys and stop making wisecracks about Moroni and Mainline, you'll let us on your list with our current seniority? That's AWESOME!!!
I'm saying if you start acting like adults and being professional you might help your case but the degrading of half of your company is childish, but you're obviously to junivile to see that.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:44 AM
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I'm saying if you start acting like adults and being professional you might help your case but the degrading of half of your company is childish, but you're obviously to junivile to see that.
The other half of our company? Pshhh. Most Skywest pilots walk around with their noses to the ceiling. I once tried to start a conversation with a SKW guy that was standing next to me waiting on a commute... his response was "oh you work for XJT"... he wouldnt even speak to me after that. Even my friends who work there have this "holier than thou" attitude. Get over yourselves.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:49 AM
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Why did they buy what? SKW bought ASA because it was (then) a cash cow. We pumped a lot of money into SKW Inc. Then came the 2010 DAL "rate reset" where DAL gave ASA a 40% pay cut. No more profits. Then SKW bought XJT, claiming its "synergistic economies of scale" would save ASA. In reality, they wanted to corner the market on regional flying for The New United. They tossed a hail mary for an incomplete pass. Now they will shut this place down, and they will rehire everyone at SkyWest Mainline. I give this process 2-5 years.
Yeah that whole post of mine was kind of a mess. I just didnt understand the reason for buying L-XJT and merging it with ASA only to possibly get rid of the whole shebang. I hope noone gets rehired at mainline... I for one will not go. Im not gonna start over at year one pay at a regional; hopefully 2-5 years is enough to head to major.
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