Originally Posted by motormadness

Leverage. Management clearly wants something suddenly. Yet it took them how many months after the no vote to come back to us with a proposal? Management wants L-XJT to give them MOU's and LOA's without a TA also. Forget that! If they want something done, they can give us a contract the pilots will overwhelmingly vote yes on.

Originally Posted by atrdriver

Then we might as well hold out til 2020 or so. We ought to have built up TONS of leverage by then. We may only miss out on a dozen or so RFPs and see SkyWest take all the new flying, but at least we will have leverage!

Originally Posted by motormadness

I think my post may not have come off correctly. I'm not saying we should drag and stomp our feet like a bunch of kids and demand what we want until we get it. What I'm saying is people are making a big deal over a meeting that's pushed back ONE MONTH. Really? Are we seriously coming into an online discussion to throw tomatoes at each other because one side wants a TA in May or June and the other isn't able to meet until July? Get real guys.

And to add to your RFP comment. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY STILL DRINKING THE COMPANY KOOL AID? The company knows their costs. Period. That was a scare tactic to get people to vote yes. It was the best move they had at the time and it failed miserably.

Originally Posted by atrdriver

Well, *two* months because certain folks are dragging their feet.

And no kool aid. Do you honestly think Inc will do anything other than continue to give new CPA flying to SkyWest until we have a JCBA? You're delusional.

Originally Posted by atrdriver

And no kool aid. Do you honestly think Inc will do anything other than continue to give new CPA flying to SkyWest until we have a JCBA? You're delusional.

Originally Posted by FSUpilot

so why haven't they done that already then? oh right... they can't staff any new flying. just like everyone else.

Originally Posted by DL31082

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Originally Posted by Nevets


Look, the facts still remain that there is a poll still open until tomorrow. The MEC doesn't want to make the same mistake twice by not actually knowing what the line pilot wants, ie absolutely no concessionary TA! There is a new MEC chairman, a new negotiating chairman, a new negotiating vice chairman that need to go through training. There is also two sitting reps in the middle of a recall vote that doesn't end until mid May. Not to mention there is a special election to fill the vacated rep position that the MEC chairman left and there are two other new reps just elected. Basically we cleaned house and it may not be over yet.

You guys don't get to dictate anything. If we need more time, then more time will be taken. If you guys need more time, then more time will be taken. When you finally realize that that's the way it is, then you will be able to stop crying like babies over something you can't do anything about.




I'm not "crying" about anything. I'm ready for this process to get moving again. Our MEC and pilots moved quickly after the No vote. The MEC chairmen resigned within weeks, the CNC chairmen resigned within hours. We moved quickly and are ready, your team didn't. I just want this company and each side to move past all this and move forward. Once we can get the contract, as long as it's good done, the faster the pilots and this company can get this merger behind us.

You have to remember the hardest and most dividing part of this whole merger comes after the contract.

Originally Posted by atrdriver

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Originally Posted by motormadness


I think my post may not have come off correctly. I'm not saying we should drag and stomp our feet like a bunch of kids and demand what we want until we get it. What I'm saying is people are making a big deal over a meeting that's pushed back ONE MONTH. Really? Are we seriously coming into an online discussion to throw tomatoes at each other because one side wants a TA in May or June and the other isn't able to meet until July? Get real guys.

And to add to your RFP comment. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY STILL DRINKING THE COMPANY KOOL AID? The company knows their costs. Period. That was a scare tactic to get people to vote yes. It was the best move they had at the time and it failed miserably.




Well, *two* months because certain folks are dragging their feet.

And no kool aid. Do you honestly think Inc will do anything other than continue to give new CPA flying to SkyWest until we have a JCBA? You're delusional.

Originally Posted by NVUS

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Originally Posted by FSUpilot


so why haven't they done that already then? oh right... they can't staff any new flying. just like everyone else.




So SkyWest adding AA flying in ORD doesn't count? Moving 200s from ASA to SkyWest to accomplish this doesn't count?

The big announcements are just waiting for the E-175 to officially be added to the certificate. So expect a few in mid-May.

Originally Posted by PICsf340

So, how long before a new hire can get either ATL n the crj or IAH on the EMB?

Originally Posted by PICsf340

So, how long before a new hire can get either ATL n the crj or IAH on the EMB?