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Old 04-23-2014 | 09:14 AM
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And unless you are reserve, all four days are 15 hours minimum pay.
I am pretty sure that it applies to reserve pilots as well (obviously, only if you break MMG).

"Except as provided in this Agreement, a pilot who is assigned a 4-day trip shall be credited a minimum of 15 hours for that trip."
Old 04-23-2014 | 09:20 AM
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No, this is coming from the new member of the ASA CNC committee.
Which makes it even bigger absurd!
Old 04-23-2014 | 09:38 AM
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And unless you are reserve, all four days are 15 hours minimum pay.




I am pretty sure that it applies to reserve pilots as well (obviously, only if you break MMG).

"Except as provided in this Agreement, a pilot who is assigned a 4-day trip shall be credited a minimum of 15 hours for that trip."
Yes, I forget that that happens on occasions.
Old 04-23-2014 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
You have a lot of opinions for someone who doesn't even work here yet. I like your bravado. I hope you get assigned to the CRJ. Just don't share your thoughts on ASA at the interview.
I didn’t mean to upset you, but it’s not my opinion it’s the opinion of the recruiter who invited me to interview. My misunderstandings are why you seem to be lined up more with mgmt or the non union pilot group than your fellow union aviators. How come what’s good for xjt is not good for you? You are supposed to be on the same side of the table.
Old 04-23-2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
I didn’t mean to upset you, but it’s not my opinion it’s the opinion of the recruiter who invited me to interview. My misunderstandings are why you seem to be lined up more with mgmt or the non union pilot group than your fellow union aviators. How come what’s good for xjt is not good for you? You are supposed to be on the same side of the table.
I like this guy already
Old 04-23-2014 | 03:34 PM
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Probably because he sounds like he already works for ExpressJet
Old 04-23-2014 | 04:48 PM
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You guys do realize your bashing one of the most vocal no voters during the last TA. He then joined the CNC to make sure it doesn't happen again. It's just frustrating to have two sides ready to go while one isn't. Specially when that side sent 10 people to national for training when only one or two members needed it.

Hopefully we can get a new TA soon that has no concessions, but we need to get to the table sooner then June. Long negotiations and bickering put us in the position we were in last Dec.
Old 04-23-2014 | 05:37 PM
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You guys do realize your bashing one of the most vocal no voters during the last TA. He then joined the CNC to make sure it doesn't happen again. It's just frustrating to have two sides ready to go while one isn't. Specially when that side sent 10 people to national for training when only one or two members needed it.

Hopefully we can get a new TA soon that has no concessions, but we need to get to the table sooner then June. Long negotiations and bickering put us in the position we were in last Dec.
Look, the facts still remain that there is a poll still open until tomorrow. The MEC doesn't want to make the same mistake twice by not actually knowing what the line pilot wants, ie absolutely no concessionary TA! There is a new MEC chairman, a new negotiating chairman, a new negotiating vice chairman that need to go through training. There is also two sitting reps in the middle of a recall vote that doesn't end until mid May. Not to mention there is a special election to fill the vacated rep position that the MEC chairman left and there are two other new reps just elected. Basically we cleaned house and it may not be over yet.

You guys don't get to dictate anything. If we need more time, then more time will be taken. If you guys need more time, then more time will be taken. When you finally realize that that's the way it is, then you will be able to stop crying like babies over something you can't do anything about.
Old 04-23-2014 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Look, the facts still remain that there is a poll still open until tomorrow. The MEC doesn't want to make the same mistake twice by not actually knowing what the line pilot wants, ie absolutely no concessionary TA! There is a new MEC chairman, a new negotiating chairman, a new negotiating vice chairman that need to go through training. There is also two sitting reps in the middle of a recall vote that doesn't end until mid May. Not to mention there is a special election to fill the vacated rep position that the MEC chairman left and there are two other new reps just elected. Basically we cleaned house and it may not be over yet.

You guys don't get to dictate anything. If we need more time, then more time will be taken. If you guys need more time, then more time will be taken. When you finally realize that that's the way it is, then you will be able to stop crying like babies over something you can't do anything about.
Well said. There is also some stupid conspiracy I read on another forum that the XJT MEC is intentionally delaying the negotiations so we come out ahead in the SLI process. I really wish people wouldn't try to stir the pot and light fires for no particular reason.

I will say that we did waste a lot of time before the last TA and we missed out on a good opportunity pre-Pinnacle caving to get this show on the road. With that said, that's water under the bridge now and there is no reason at all to rush this through right now. In fact, we only gain more by waiting.
Old 04-23-2014 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
You guys don't get to dictate anything. If we need more time, then more time will be taken. If you guys need more time, then more time will be taken. When you finally realize that that's the way it is, then you will be able to stop crying like babies over something you can't do anything about.
That!!

Originally Posted by DL31082
You guys do realize your bashing one of the most vocal no voters during the last TA. He then joined the CNC to make sure it doesn't happen again. It's just frustrating to have two sides ready to go while one isn't. Specially when that side sent 10 people to national for training when only one or two members needed it.
The last TA went down in flames just because both the pilot groups were unified! When CNC member acts as a fearmonger on a public forum, it just looks bad and surely doesn't help our unity!
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