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Old 08-11-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vertisch View Post
Do you have training from this vacancy bid?
Yup. And to make things more interesting, those ETB replaced my vacation on my September preassigned credit. I'm looking forward to playing phone tag on Monday
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:03 PM
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Haha. It replaced my vacation as well.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:28 PM
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OK, Ive been looking for a Flica PBS guide, but all I could find was an old CrewBid manual still in the docs. Somebody, off the top of your head- what are we bidding to with Vac Low?? My addled brain is unable to recall.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Smith View Post
OK, Ive been looking for a Flica PBS guide, but all I could find was an old CrewBid manual still in the docs. Somebody, off the top of your head- what are we bidding to with Vac Low?? My addled brain is unable to recall.
65 hours of min line credit I think.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ysslah View Post
65 hours of min line credit I think.
Minus the 28 you get from vacation so you need to find 37 hours from pairings.
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Old 08-12-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Smith View Post
OK, Ive been looking for a Flica PBS guide, but all I could find was an old CrewBid manual still in the docs. Somebody, off the top of your head- what are we bidding to with Vac Low?? My addled brain is unable to recall.
If you want an excellent PBS guide get ahold of Russ Vaugh's Q&A guide. It's on the ALPA web board under PBS.

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Old 08-12-2012, 09:43 AM
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If you want an excellent PBS guide get ahold of Russ Vaugh's Q&A guide. It's on the ALPA web board under PBS.

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Thanks!

Now that I get to take full advantage of PBS being a line holder I needed something like that!
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:22 PM
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Does anyone know how many more block hours we are getting out of IAD on the CRJ in October?
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:05 PM
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Don't just take the word of the usual suspects like Tony, JoeMerchant, Southerner, or whom ever else THINKS they have a good handle on what the L-XJT wants out of this whole thing.
Don't throw me into the mix with those two. I may not say things that you agree with, but I do want a JCBA and SLI that we can all agree to. I haven't formed any opinions of ERJ guys from online. All of my opinions come from those that I know in the "real world." For the most part, they are good people, with a slightly distorted view of the reality of the XJT purchase, and lack of experience with the SkyWest Inc management.

That combination has led them to believe that if they just hold their breath and stomp like a child in WalMart, management will cave in and give them whatever pay rates they want if they will only just start breathing again. Unfortunately, that isn't the case.

In my posts, I've tried to impart some of my experience since the SkyWest purchase of ASA with the SkyWest management. I'm looking out for your best interests, because if you dig in and vote no to a contract that is reasonable, SkyWest management will punish you for it. I'm just a line pilot, but that's my take on this whole deal. I don't want the CRJ side to grow at the expense of the ERJ side, but I would bet my regional jet paycheck that it will happen if they determine you aren't reasonable people to work with.

I'm not a regional "lifer," and I'm not willing to vote yes on just anything or any rate that comes along. I think there are several sections of the contract that need significant improvement, for the CRJ side at least. I'm willing to vote no for a contract that isn't reasonable.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:59 PM
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Don't throw me into the mix with those two. I may not say things that you agree with, but I do want a JCBA and SLI that we can all agree to. I haven't formed any opinions of ERJ guys from online. All of my opinions come from those that I know in the "real world." For the most part, they are good people, with a slightly distorted view of the reality of the XJT purchase, and lack of experience with the SkyWest Inc management.

That combination has led them to believe that if they just hold their breath and stomp like a child in WalMart, management will cave in and give them whatever pay rates they want if they will only just start breathing again. Unfortunately, that isn't the case.

In my posts, I've tried to impart some of my experience since the SkyWest purchase of ASA with the SkyWest management. I'm looking out for your best interests, because if you dig in and vote no to a contract that is reasonable, SkyWest management will punish you for it. I'm just a line pilot, but that's my take on this whole deal. I don't want the CRJ side to grow at the expense of the ERJ side, but I would bet my regional jet paycheck that it will happen if they determine you aren't reasonable people to work with.

I'm not a regional "lifer," and I'm not willing to vote yes on just anything or any rate that comes along. I think there are several sections of the contract that need significant improvement, for the CRJ side at least. I'm willing to vote no for a contract that isn't reasonable.
This is the brainwashing coming out of the ASA mec that is perfectly willing to give away whatever negotiating leverage they have. The company can and will make money off of us and management will be compensated well for their time. Why are we the ones fighting for pennies and being abused by poor contract language? Pay rates mean nothing if the work rules aren't there and this negotiation is a two way street. Your mentality of play ball or we upset mom is exactly why the pilot whipshaw continues. No backbone or knowledge of how to negotiate.
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