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05-06-2014, 01:42 PM
#5881
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Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
05-06-2014, 01:55 PM
#5882
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by gojo
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
There's probably a good chance of that happening. As I look down the C concourse in MSP today I see planes with QX,PQ, and CA tail numbers all of which are operated by Skywest or Skywest Inc. today
Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
There's probably a good chance of that happening. As I look down the C concourse in MSP today I see planes with QX,PQ, and CA tail numbers all of which are operated by Skywest or Skywest Inc. today
Originally Posted by amcnd
This will be a interesting call.. We all want EFB's but thats a 5mill investment for the company.. And if were in the negitive i doubt they will do any capital expenditures... I want to know the plan. They can't change the CPA with UA.. So what will they do..
05-06-2014, 01:57 PM
#5883
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 484
Originally Posted by Waitingformins
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
05-06-2014, 02:04 PM
#5884
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by air101
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitingformins
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
Originally Posted by Waitingformins
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
05-06-2014, 02:09 PM
#5885
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 270
Originally Posted by air101
I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
05-06-2014, 02:31 PM
#5886
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 322
I had the United Airlines ALPA MEC in my jumpseat a few weeks ago and he told me that SkyWest Inc. currently operates about 400 fifty seat jets for United and they want to cut that number down to 128 in the next few years. They want to accelerate the rate at which these airplanes are originally going to go out of contract.
05-06-2014, 02:31 PM
#5887
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 484
Originally Posted by flyguy94
You talk about this as though you're calling the shots of XJT. Give me a break dude. Fact is, its Skywests fault those CPA's exist. Skywest is spending a lot of money fixing the XJT operation, they aren't doing that to shut the doors. They have been opening domiciles, replacing management etc etc.
05-06-2014, 02:58 PM
#5888
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Posts: 242
Originally Posted by air101
And it's not working. Like I stated, I am not casting blame upon anyone. However, facts are facts.
Dude, neither you or I have a clue about what is happening behind those closed doors. You have succumbed to the Inc/Jerry Kool-aid and are carrying his torch to the inter-webs. Good for you.
Whether or not XJT is making or losing money is not known by any of us lowly line pilots. Those folks at Inc headquarters can make either side look like hero's or zero's. Just because Jerry and the Board say we are losing money doesn't mean we actually are. Open your eyes, man. The boys at Inc and F & H are masters of deception and will do whatever they think is necessary to subjugate that unruly entity called Expressjet.
We just drive the bus. Stop thinking you know what's going on and focus on what you do best. The less you worry about what Jerry and the boys are doing the happier you'll be.
05-06-2014, 03:01 PM
#5889
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Posts: 3,707
facts are it is a skw inc company and ske inc senior management run ejt planning and skw inc bids on contracts for ejt. but skw inc under bids contracts and you blame ejt ops for not making money, sorry that's skw inc problem.
05-06-2014, 03:22 PM
#5890
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Position: emb-145 ca
Posts: 212
Originally Posted by buddies8
facts are it is a skw inc company and ske inc senior management run ejt planning and skw inc bids on contracts for ejt. but skw inc under bids contracts and you blame ejt ops for not making money, sorry that's skw inc problem.
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