My understanding is (and I could be wrong) that no more united 76 seat scope is available until mainline adds narrow body aircraft to their fleet. Those aircraft have not been ordered yet. Also E175's don't just grow on trees.

 

There is room for more. But not 100.... Maybe 30-60.. Anyone know the exact number?

 

SKW Inc does have 60 left out of the original order of 100 (plus 100 options) .. now that goes without saying there would be a problem staffing it I am sure. This is probably where they would again attempt some kind of concessionary contract in exchange for planes scheme. Word at Mesa also is they have also been told they were in the works to get more, but it's been awhile since I have heard any more on that.

 

Talk at Compass too, EVERYONE has heard they will get more. Wait and see as always.

Sorry I realized you were discussing United, I just keep seeing you spout off about someone sitting on something in every thread. You should tell them to standup maybe.

 

As I understand it from Mainline United pilots there is no more room for additional 76 seaters until United establishes a SNB aircraft. The contract is essentially the same as Delta's so I believe United would have to add a 717 type aircraft, remove 50 seaters, and add 76 seaters based on a predetermined ratio per SNB aircraft.

 

I can see UAL keeping the 104 XRs. Other than those top 1100 pilots, hopefully the rest of us find ourselves in better places. That is my guess in the best case scenario.


Regional Aircraft Size and Numbers: On or After Jan. 1, 2014 (1-C-1-a-(1)-ii)
The Company’s 70/76-seat aircraft fleet count is currently 183, with a combined total Express carrier fleet count
of 588 aircraft. The legacy Continental contract has a limit on the number of small jets (50-seat limit) which can
increase with increases in the mainline fleet, based on a matrix of our entire fleet. The number is unlimited for
Q400 turboprops. The legacy United contract permits unlimited 70-seat jets, but contains a restriction whereby the
number of block hours of feeder flying cannot exceed the block hours of Company flying.

Scope Transition Limitations: On or After Jan. 1, 2014 (1-C-1-a-(1)-ii)
• Between Jan. 1, 2014 and Jan. 1, 2016, the Company will be allowed to permit United Express to operate
up to 255 70/76-seat aircraft, of which up to 130 may be 76-seat aircraft

Scope Transition Limitations: On or After Jan 1, 2016
• On or after Jan. 1, 2016, the Company will be allowed to increase their 76-seat aircraft fleet from 130 to
153
• In both events (previous two bullets), United Express may not exceed 255 70/76-seat aircraft (combined)
fleet. The Company cannot exceed these limits without first:
- Acquiring and adding New Small Narrowbody Aircraft (as defined in this section) to the
Company fleet
- Reducing 50-seat aircraft flown by United Express
- Tightening the single-aisle block hour ratio
• Jets and large turboprops (Q400s) are covered under this provision (eliminating the ability for the
Company to operate an unlimited number of Q400 turboprop aircraft)

 

So if I am interpreting these data correctly: with the 183 currently online plus the 30 going to mesa and the 40 going to Skywest, that adds up to 253 (70/76) seat aircraft. So there is additional scope for only two more aircraft until the narrow body (717, E190, CRJ1000 size) aircraft are brought online by United.

 

So why don't you quit? If you don't want to be a part of it, why not look elsewhere? What you type out on your phone and what kind of man you are in real life are in question here.

 

Thought XJT ha some "upgage" clause..??.. Guess scope won't alow that now..??..

 

We as a pilot group at XJT have not succumbed to this whipsaw. We just voted down the concessions. I voted no and I will continue to vote no. I didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model. Unless this place shuts down before, I will pick the time and place to go on my own timeline and needs as best as I can control that. Trust me, I've got a couple things lined up and few other options I'm working on as back up plans. But while I'm here, I will continue to point out this immoral business model. And no one who matters to me questions who I am, what I'm about, or where my priorities.