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Old 05-08-2014 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
As I understand it from Mainline United pilots there is no more room for additional 76 seaters until United establishes a SNB aircraft. The contract is essentially the same as Delta's so I believe United would have to add a 717 type aircraft, remove 50 seaters, and add 76 seaters based on a predetermined ratio per SNB aircraft.
Which will be a while. They can't even get guys through training at mainline due to all the extra training from retirements. New hires are still sitting in the pool, no interviews at all this year to date and not expecting to do so until probably the fall.

They can't even get the 737 filled with pilots, they are increasing 767 usage in DEN 75%.

They don't have the resources to get another aircraft type on property, let alone train for and staff it right now. It will be a while.

For now, you will see XJT management put out memos that they have been able to keep some aircraft flying for cost at the mainline carriers, some of them will get parked, but then you can watch Skywest pick them up from the desert, put new engines on them and either increase their 50 seat CRJ flying or park the BROs. The ERJs will probably just be parked.

What mainline hiring is happening will probably keep from furloughing, and XJT as a whole will be shrunk quite a bit, especially the ERJ side. Some of the new hires will jump ship for Skywest, compass, Mesa, go jet, whoever is posting fast upgrades at the time.
Old 05-08-2014 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
We as a pilot group at XJT have not succumbed to this whipsaw. We just voted down the concessions. I voted no and I will continue to vote no. I didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model. Unless this place shuts down before, I will pick the time and place to go on my own timeline and needs as best as I can control that. Trust me, I've got a couple things lined up and few other options I'm working on as back up plans. But while I'm here, I will continue to point out this immoral business model. And no one who matters to me questions who I am, what I'm about, or where my priorities.
You didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model? Yet you asked for a job at a regional airline.
Even if you were there back in continental express days when you would have had a number at continental, when that got stripped away you should have seen the writing on the wall, when you went into bankruptcy you should have seen the writing on the wall, no you sit on here and complain about the whipsaw and how it is going to bring the airline down and you are ready to help sink the ship, you can obviously see the writing on the wall. So I hope you can see that you did and still are asking to be part of this "immoral business model" if you are still there working for that business.
Old 05-08-2014 | 12:14 PM
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United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Fleet Information


According to United's Fleet plan, all nine of XJT's E135s will be parked this year, and a total of 34 E145s will be parked in 2014. I am under the assumption that CHQ is parking 27 E145s, so by this math (which I'm not certain is right), xjt will loose 7 E145s in 2014. Two were parked recently.
Old 05-08-2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
You didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model? Yet you asked for a job at a regional airline.
Even if you were there back in continental express days when you would have had a number at continental, when that got stripped away you should have seen the writing on the wall, when you went into bankruptcy you should have seen the writing on the wall, no you sit on here and complain about the whipsaw and how it is going to bring the airline down and you are ready to help sink the ship, you can obviously see the writing on the wall. So I hope you can see that you did and still are asking to be part of this "immoral business model" if you are still there working for that business.
When was expressjet in bankruptcy? !?
Old 05-08-2014 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vtpilot
United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Fleet Information


According to United's Fleet plan, all nine of XJT's E135s will be parked this year, and a total of 34 E145s will be parked in 2014. I am under the assumption that CHQ is parking 27 E145s, so by this math (which I'm not certain is right), xjt will loose 7 E145s in 2014. Two were parked recently.
Incorrect. XJT will be removing all 135s at the end of August this year and a total of 23 145s by the end of 2014.
Old 05-08-2014 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vtpilot
United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Fleet Information


According to United's Fleet plan, all nine of XJT's E135s will be parked this year, and a total of 34 E145s will be parked in 2014. I am under the assumption that CHQ is parking 27 E145s, so by this math (which I'm not certain is right), xjt will loose 7 E145s in 2014. Two were parked recently.
For the love of god, why is this such a simple concept to master for so many people???
Old 05-08-2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
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Originally Posted by Nevets


We as a pilot group at XJT have not succumbed to this whipsaw. We just voted down the concessions. I voted no and I will continue to vote no. I didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model. Unless this place shuts down before, I will pick the time and place to go on my own timeline and needs as best as I can control that. Trust me, I've got a couple things lined up and few other options I'm working on as back up plans. But while I'm here, I will continue to point out this immoral business model. And no one who matters to me questions who I am, what I'm about, or where my priorities.




You didn't ask to be part of this immoral business model? Yet you asked for a job at a regional airline.
Even if you were there back in continental express days when you would have had a number at continental, when that got stripped away you should have seen the writing on the wall, when you went into bankruptcy you should have seen the writing on the wall, no you sit on here and complain about the whipsaw and how it is going to bring the airline down and you are ready to help sink the ship, you can obviously see the writing on the wall. So I hope you can see that you did and still are asking to be part of this "immoral business model" if you are still there working for that business.
First, I'm not helping sink anything! This is ALL on Skywest Inc management! Next, who was in bankruptcy? Lastly, when I say "immoral business model" I'm not talking about good old American capitalism in which independent companies compete on product and service. What I'm talking about specifically is our CEO pitting one set of his employees against another set of his employees while simultaneously giving himself thousands of shares of stock and asking us to take pay cuts. All in order to subsidize the cost of two management teams and their staff, the cost of two infrastructures, processes, systems, departments, two of EVERYTHING. Just to perpetuate this immoral business model so that he can do it to us again the next round. THAT'S the immoral whipsaw business model I'm referring to. One in which I did NOT sign up for when I applied to work here. So while I'm here, I'll will (among many other things) "sit on here and complain."

Do you honestly endorse that horse $hit?

Originally Posted by vtpilot
United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Fleet Information


According to United's Fleet plan, all nine of XJT's E135s will be parked this year, and a total of 34 E145s will be parked in 2014. I am under the assumption that CHQ is parking 27 E145s, so by this math (which I'm not certain is right), xjt will loose 7 E145s in 2014. Two were parked recently.
Only a dozen of CHQ's 145 were operating under UAX. The rest were for AAG.
Old 05-08-2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
For the love of god, why is this such a simple concept to master for so many people???
Guess some people need to tighten up before someone loses their mind, 'eh?
Old 05-08-2014 | 02:42 PM
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Anyone in the May 19th CRJ class.. If so please PM me.
Old 05-08-2014 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Guess some people need to tighten up before someone loses their mind, 'eh?
Lol, at least you got it right! It's 3rd grade grammar and spelling!
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