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01-22-2014, 04:11 PM

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Ftrooppilot

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Originally Posted by Slats

Another interesting note... Bendover yes voters who didn't pass the SSP, what went wrong fellas? Thought that was the reason for a "yes vote"???
Chumps...

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01-22-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot

I just report the numbers from a reputable aviation analytical organization. "Flight Operations Expense This includes pilots, training, fuel/oil, leases and even benefits."

Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis

Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis

Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.

Your source isn't reliable. Look at their block hour graphs and you will see they are completely inaccurate with showing massive losses in e145 bock hours in 2013 affecting the block hour costs. Our true operating costs aren't reported and the true cost charged to a mainline partner is completely dependent on the individual contract. Looking at pilot costs as a factor in who will get future flying is idiotic. If Skywest with their financial backing, pilots, and solid management don't make you a little nervous then you don't know what you are talking about. The regional model is critically broken going forward and UAL and DAL are looking at options outside of the normal fee for departure model from the past.

01-22-2014, 04:53 PM

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Ftrooppilot

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Originally Posted by newarkblows

Your source isn't reliable.

"Airline financial and statistical information over the last 20 years. The data is pulled from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. "

I would assume the Bureau gets their information from each air carrier.

01-22-2014, 05:12 PM

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NormalAbnormal

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Originally Posted by newarkblows

Your source isn't reliable. Look at their block hour graphs and you will see they are completely inaccurate with showing massive losses in e145 bock hours in 2013 affecting the block hour costs.

Also take a look at "Average Speed Aloft between Destinations" or load factor or fuel burn per hour. I suspect they have incomplete 2013 data.

01-23-2014, 08:13 AM

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newarkblows

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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot

Come on man. LOOK AT THE DATA!!! It shows e145 block hours going from 800,000 in 2012 to 350,000 in 2013... which throws the block hour costs right out the window. Those numbers you are referring to aren't official, are using incomplete data, and some of those numbers are proprietary (requiring non-disclosure agreements from individual companies) and are probably a simple math formula off of reported revenues in SEC filings... which again doesn't tell you anything.

01-23-2014, 10:33 AM

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But...but...I read it on the internet from a really official looking site. It has to be true!

01-24-2014, 04:55 AM

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Captain Tony

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

Delta can do whatever they want, they hold all the cards. Bendover had a CPA with Delta through 2020, how is that working out for them? You work for a contractor in an industry where it will be near impossible to make money in the next couple years. Get ready for the unexpected, things are changing quickly.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound

Anyone who's worked for a DCI carrier that's been bent over knows that contracts mean absolutely nothing. They are meant to be broken. Just wait for it. Delta does what it wants and they have smart accountants/lawyers who can weasel their way out of anything. Delta won't be held back nor told what to do by ANY of its regional carriers... Including the mighty SkyWest.

Thanks for the opinion piece.

I guess it's lost on you that DAL gained control of Pinnacle (Endeavor), which terminated their CPA (contract with Delta)? Unless Delta plans to acquire ExpressJet of SkyWest, that's not going to happen. Delta doesn't even have the cash to try.

Thanks for belittling me with the worn out contractor crap. I hope it helps you sleep better at night knowing you've reached middle age and ****ed your life away in a failed career.

01-24-2014, 11:06 AM

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Pilot population numbers at IAD

I have recently interviewed and been given a conditional offer of employment with XJT. I am trying to see what the FO population numbers are by aircraft type at IAD. I have not been offered training dates yet, but want to know if one aircraft or the other is better to get IAD. Both are supposedly junior bases at IAD, but pilot population may indicate other trends.

KIAD # of ERJ FOs: ??
KIAD # of CRJ FOs: ??

Thanks for the help.

01-24-2014, 11:14 AM

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campingalan

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61 IAD ERJ FOs in Feb for 34 lines and 10 relief lines. Those numbers change every month.

My classmates just junior to me are just getting lines in EWR and relief line in MCI.

The current trend in IAD is to fly less than others at other bases. And, now for Feb, it seems we will get lines later too.

01-24-2014, 02:05 PM

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IAD is harder to get off the bat on the ERJ in comparison to the other bases like EWR or IAH. While I'm not trying to stir up anything here, but I believe the United CRJ CPA contract is up this year. With that said, it could get extended or terminated. If terminated, the CRJ side will likely not have an IAD base any longer.

It's the regional airlines. The place could be turned upside down by the time you'd make it on the line.