What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
01-22-2014, 01:01 PM
#4981
Underpaid...
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
Express Jet CRJ200 2013 operations costs were $553.00 / block hour.
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
Endeavor CRJ200 2013 operations cost were $361.00 / block hour.
Express Jet flew 145,622 hours in 2013 at a cost of $80,518,920.
Endeavor could have flown the same block hours for $52,569,542
DAL will reduce CRJ200 operations in 2014
Who has the leverage ?
01-22-2014, 01:03 PM
#4982
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Delta is getting rid of 200s no matter what. It is in their pilot contract with a hard number. Whether they go away from Asa, Skywest, endeavor is just a matter of contracts, new deals, cost etc.
01-22-2014, 01:07 PM
#4983
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 265
Originally Posted by What
This is a flat out lie, I don't fly the CR2 but on a 2 hr flight you will burning over 3k lbs of gas, that's $1,300+ just on gas and I know this is very conservative. Add to that crew, maintenance, insurance, leases and other cost related including back office folks and these RJs cost thousands of dollars an hr to operate. If endeavor did it for sub 400 an hr these airplanes would make a profit with just the folks sitting on the exit row!!!! Please don't come here spewing garbage.
01-22-2014, 01:19 PM
#4984
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
Fuel and some maintenance costs (engine overhauls) are reimbursed by Delta.
With that said, next time they say they can't make money because of the pilots cost, you can remind them of how we are such a small part of the pie.
01-22-2014, 02:16 PM
#4985
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,236
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
SkyWest has a CPA with Delta for 200 flying over the next 5 years. Delta would have to buy them out. Bendover is wholly owned with no CPA and thus their airplanes can be parked tomorrow. That's the difference.
01-22-2014, 02:58 PM
#4986
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Just another RJ guy
Posts: 906
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
SkyWest has a CPA with Delta for 200 flying over the next 5 years. Delta would have to buy them out. Bendover is wholly owned with no CPA and thus their airplanes can be parked tomorrow. That's the difference.
01-22-2014, 03:04 PM
#4987
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 139
Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
Anyone who's worked for a DCI carrier that's been bent over knows that contracts mean absolutely nothing. They are meant to be broken. Just wait for it. Delta does what it wants and they have smart accountants/lawyers who can weasel their way out of anything. Delta won't be held back nor told what to do by ANY of its regional carriers... Including the mighty SkyWest.
01-22-2014, 03:50 PM
#4988
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
Posts: 1,349
Originally Posted by What
This is a flat out lie, I don't fly the CR2 but on a 2 hr flight you will burning over 3k lbs of gas, that's $1,300+ just on gas and I know this is very conservative. Add to that crew, maintenance, insurance, leases and other cost related including back office folks and these RJs cost thousands of dollars an hr to operate. If endeavor did it for sub 400 an hr these airplanes would make a profit with just the folks sitting on the exit row!!!! Please don't come here spewing garbage.
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.
01-22-2014, 04:06 PM
#4989
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,071
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
I just report the numbers from a reputable aviation analytical organization. "Flight Operations Expense This includes pilots, training, fuel/oil, leases and even benefits."
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.
Chumps...
01-22-2014, 04:08 PM
#4990
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
I just report the numbers from a reputable aviation analytical organization. "Flight Operations Expense This includes pilots, training, fuel/oil, leases and even benefits."
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Airline Aircraft Specific - Audries Aircraft Analysis
Another interesting comparison is Express Jet cost of $.042 per seat mile vs Endeavor $.029 per seat mile.
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