Negotiations for a new contract have nothing to do with our current fianacial situation. We signed a money losing contract with United. That was all Skywests' fault. Unless we all work for free, they will continue to lose money. If Skywest wants to turn XJT around, they need to negotiate a new contract with United.

Sure we will shrink no matter what. However distasteful everyone finds 50 seaters, there is still a niche market for them. There isn't a 500 aircraft market for them, but there is a market. We have 140 XR's at XJT. I doubt those will go anywhere anytime soon. Unless another regional can find about 1,700 guys to staff those, I'd say XJT won't be shutting their doors anytime soon.

 

With United's stunning Q1 loss, I doubt they will be ready to give SKW/XJT more money any time soon.

A JCBA will reduce costs for the company. There is no denying that.

As for staffing, I bet SkyWest gets at least 1700 applicants out of 4000 when they shut this place down. Look at all the Comair pilots who went to other regionals and started over.

You guys are massively overplaying your hand.

 

So you are saying that the LXJT side should take concessions to help the company out?

 

There you go again. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted NO. They said they are parking 108 aircraft (a few of them ERJs) over the next 14 months. Nothing new there. And it was the company who cancelled the negotiating meeting anyway. So who is stalling? And even if it was the XJT MEC stalling, what do you care since this is all bad news for LXJT?

Typical, your posts never add up and you are all over the place.

With that logic, then they can save even more money by one listing all of us! Nope, our CEO prefers that we take pay cuts in order to subsidize his immoral whipsaw business model in order to enrich himself.

 

Why do you think you're being asked to take concessions? Is this what your MEC is telling you? It's news to me.

 

What?????????

 

Nevets, please explain to me, in detail, how a one-list will save Inc. money.

 

After four years of company memos stating they need to lower their cost and reign in spending that is what I assume, maybe I am wrong. My MEC has not said anything other than negotiations were delayed due to the company lawyers having a conflict and they will meet in June. I don't really listen to my MEC anymore because they have already tried to sell me a POS TA so they, nor the ASA MEC and JNC, has any equity with me. If the company is telling you no concessions for either side that is good but they said the same thing to us four years ago and then later asked for cuts. We know we are going down to about 150 aircraft in the next 18 months, no surprise there and it does not scare us. We have 60 pilots in ORD and DEN alone that are in the UAL pool and should be getting class dates soon. Unlike ASA our top 500 seniority spots are not lifers so our attrition should be fine and give us all time to get out of here. I am glad to hear pay cuts are off the table because I like my 5% match and 4% DC plan, hopefully you can negotiate that into your new contract as well.

 

XJT offered the current SKW contract in exchange for one list and that alone would save Inc about $30 million (number confirmed by the JNC) a year in LASA and LXJT pilot cost but Inc said no thanks.

 

Xjt's training department is very different from the CRJ side. Our highest paid people in the company are our sim instructors and yours are the line check airmen. There wont be an announcement on the CRJ side because the ERJ side has been training double to triple the amount of pilots as the CRJ side. It is going to be scaled back (mismanaged) by the same people that drove our staffing crisis 16 months ago. We stopped hiring and upgrading right when we should have been going full tilt in the training department because our Delta based leaders had no experience working with United's fleet managers. Playing catch up in the second half of the year worsened our ability to cover flights and was costing 250,000-300,000 a month in overtime for erj instructors. Those are facts.

The people in Atlanta know the Delta operation and are completely clueless on the United way of doing things. They have proven themselves completely incapable of running an airline this size for any airline other than Delta. United usually makes fleet decisions about 4-6 months out and will renew or cancel a contract in that time frame.

Holt and our mormon buddies from Utah stopped bidding on profitable, short term contract extensions for the ERJ side about a year ago for a very specific reason. Their plan is based on calling United's bluff. They have proposed a big draw down in regional aircraft (40+ a month for NOV and DEC) over a short amount of time to see if they can pressure United into reworking the ERJ CPA. Reworking the CPA is actually bad news for the erj side. They will rework the compensation to park LR's and ER's at a slightly slower rate but will ultimately be left with XR's and a few LR's. Skywest Airlines will benefit the most as they will park CRJ 200's to staff 175 deliveries.

The line pilots will pay the price of having a clueless management and a dying aircraft. They don't need their own ALPA people to hurry their demise. Seeing a member of ALPA leadership trying to manipulate HIS OWN COMPANIES pilots with half truths and misinformation is pretty disgusting to me. You guys need to be one voice against the company and not a disgruntled lifer stirring the pot. Seeing you and the ASA MEC get all serious about the company "opening their wallet" would be really cute if it hadn't already been said 3 years ago. Are you really going to make the same mistakes our union leadership made then or are you going to see that stirring up the other side with baseless info is killing the collective cause? Right now it is deja vu.