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Old 05-21-2014 | 05:43 PM
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Hiring has not stopped. Management is offering voluntary furloughs in the training department as the hiring/upgrade machine spools down due to the parking of aircraft as the year progresses. This is nothing we didn't know about - We knew we were losing aircraft at the end of the year and that hiring would slow down. So, it's slowing down, not stopping. That's the official word for now. That's not to say the writing isn't on the wall for this place though. It's definitely been there for a while. Not to mention this thread reeks of the Comair thread that ran about 3,000 pages before the company finally shut it's doors. Anybody else notice that?
Old 05-21-2014 | 05:47 PM
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in·ter·view
ˈintərˌvyo͞o/
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noun: interview; plural noun: interviews

1.
a meeting of people face to face, especially for consultation.

hire
hīr/
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verb: hire; 3rd person present: hires; past tense: hired; past participle: hired; gerund or present participle: hiring

1.
employ (someone) for wages.


(these appear to have different meanings)
OH WOW!!!! Thank you SOOO much for explaining that for me. Thanks a lot Richard!
I'm honestly curious what is that that compels you to conduct yourself in such a manner?
Old 05-21-2014 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Hiring has not stopped. Management is offering voluntary furloughs in the training department as the hiring/upgrade machine spools down due to the parking of aircraft as the year progresses. This is nothing we didn't know about - We knew we were losing aircraft at the end of the year and that hiring would slow down. So, it's slowing down, not stopping. That's the official word for now. That's not to say the writing isn't on the wall for this place though. It's definitely been there for a while. Not to mention this thread reeks of the Comair thread that ran about 3,000 pages before the company finally shut it's doors. Anybody else notice that?
Quite a few similarities no? And voluntary furlough?? Are these guys going back to the line... I think that at this point any furlough means straight up unemployment.
Old 05-21-2014 | 07:22 PM
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Hiring has not stopped. Management is offering voluntary furloughs in the training department as the hiring/upgrade machine spools down due to the parking of aircraft as the year progresses. This is nothing we didn't know about - We knew we were losing aircraft at the end of the year and that hiring would slow down. So, it's slowing down, not stopping. That's the official word for now. That's not to say the writing isn't on the wall for this place though. It's definitely been there for a while. Not to mention this thread reeks of the Comair thread that ran about 3,000 pages before the company finally shut it's doors. Anybody else notice that?




Quite a few similarities no? And voluntary furlough?? Are these guys going back to the line... I think that at this point any furlough means straight up unemployment.
Well, you would be thinking wrong...for now.
Old 05-21-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
I think that at this point any furlough means straight up unemployment.
You're wrong, sorry. It means they are simply being offered the opportunity to go back to the line until hiring spools up again. In the grand scheme it could mean many things. I remember once hiring slowed down in 2012 the TC furloughed, even line pilots were offered LOAs and guess what - The sky was falling and everyone was losing their jobs....Everyone kept their jobs and at the end of the day everyone was fine.

We've known we were going to lose these airplanes for a long time and quite frankly we were never properly staffed for the 135's to begin with. Attrition is high as is and will only accelerate in the months to come. We'll see what happens. Although the writing is on the wall, anything could happen...It just doesn't look good right now.
Old 05-21-2014 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
You're wrong, sorry. It means they are simply being offered the opportunity to go back to the line until hiring spools up again. In the grand scheme it could mean many things. I remember once hiring slowed down in 2012 the TC furloughed, even line pilots were offered LOAs and guess what - The sky was falling and everyone was losing their jobs....Everyone kept their jobs and at the end of the day everyone was fine.

We've known we were going to lose these airplanes for a long time and quite frankly we were never properly staffed for the 135's to begin with. Attrition is high as is and will only accelerate in the months to come. We'll see what happens. Although the writing is on the wall, anything could happen...It just doesn't look good right now.
That was my question... are they 'furloughed' are or they simply going back to the line. When I think furlough I think without work, and with the 'writing on the wall' just didn't see how they would have been recalled. Good to hear they are just going back to the line. And it's a lot more than just the 135's if i'm not mistaken.
Old 05-22-2014 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
I'm honestly curious what is that that compels you to conduct yourself in such a manner?
I posted about hiring, you posted about interviewing. I figured either
A: you didn't know there was a difference...or
2: you are a know it all needing a smart alec answer..

I realize now you just have a reading comprehension problem. I'm sorry.
Old 05-22-2014 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
That was my question... are they 'furloughed' are or they simply going back to the line. When I think furlough I think without work, and with the 'writing on the wall' just didn't see how they would have been recalled. Good to hear they are just going back to the line. And it's a lot more than just the 135's if i'm not mistaken.
They have to furlough in reverse seniority order. Soo they will go back to the line. Or the company will offer LOAs again... I could use some time off, working 90 hours a month every month.
Old 05-22-2014 | 03:30 AM
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Currently scheduled classes, dates and names, will stay on schedule. BUT if you drop out or want to change your date, most likely will not allow, that seat will not be back filled.

Interviews already scheduled will continue as scheduled.

No more dates for classes scheduled or anticipated after August.
Old 05-22-2014 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Hiring has not stopped. Management is offering voluntary furloughs in the training department as the hiring/upgrade machine spools down due to the parking of aircraft as the year progresses. This is nothing we didn't know about - We knew we were losing aircraft at the end of the year and that hiring would slow down. So, it's slowing down, not stopping. That's the official word for now. That's not to say the writing isn't on the wall for this place though. It's definitely been there for a while. Not to mention this thread reeks of the Comair thread that ran about 3,000 pages before the company finally shut it's doors. Anybody else notice that?
See that light at the end of the tunnel? It's the train. But you guys go right on thinking it's the end of the tunnel with pots of gold waiting for you.

You all can rationalize this all you want if it makes you feel better. Considering the massive attrition we're seeing, and what's expected in the future, them scaling down the ERJ training department is a very bad sign for LXJT pilots. Notice no such announcement came out on the CRJ side. You guys are about to park a lot more airplanes than previously announced because the SKW BOD is not impressed with our finances, and your MECs attempts to stall the JCBA and SLI. Now, unfortunately, it's the line pilots who will pay the price, not the ones who created the problem.
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