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Nevets, please explain to me, in detail, how a one-list will save Inc. money.
Quote: Why do you think you're being asked to take concessions? Is this what your MEC is telling you? It's news to me.
After four years of company memos stating they need to lower their cost and reign in spending that is what I assume, maybe I am wrong. My MEC has not said anything other than negotiations were delayed due to the company lawyers having a conflict and they will meet in June. I don't really listen to my MEC anymore because they have already tried to sell me a POS TA so they, nor the ASA MEC and JNC, has any equity with me. If the company is telling you no concessions for either side that is good but they said the same thing to us four years ago and then later asked for cuts. We know we are going down to about 150 aircraft in the next 18 months, no surprise there and it does not scare us. We have 60 pilots in ORD and DEN alone that are in the UAL pool and should be getting class dates soon. Unlike ASA our top 500 seniority spots are not lifers so our attrition should be fine and give us all time to get out of here. I am glad to hear pay cuts are off the table because I like my 5% match and 4% DC plan, hopefully you can negotiate that into your new contract as well.
Quote: Nevets, please explain to me, in detail, how a one-list will save Inc. money.
XJT offered the current SKW contract in exchange for one list and that alone would save Inc about $30 million (number confirmed by the JNC) a year in LASA and LXJT pilot cost but Inc said no thanks.
Quote: See that light at the end of the tunnel? It's the train. But you guys go right on thinking it's the end of the tunnel with pots of gold waiting for you.

You all can rationalize this all you want if it makes you feel better. Considering the massive attrition we're seeing, and what's expected in the future, them scaling down the ERJ training department is a very bad sign for LXJT pilots. Notice no such announcement came out on the CRJ side. You guys are about to park a lot more airplanes than previously announced because the SKW BOD is not impressed with our finances, and your MECs attempts to stall the JCBA and SLI. Now, unfortunately, it's the line pilots who will pay the price, not the ones who created the problem.
Xjt's training department is very different from the CRJ side. Our highest paid people in the company are our sim instructors and yours are the line check airmen. There wont be an announcement on the CRJ side because the ERJ side has been training double to triple the amount of pilots as the CRJ side. It is going to be scaled back (mismanaged) by the same people that drove our staffing crisis 16 months ago. We stopped hiring and upgrading right when we should have been going full tilt in the training department because our Delta based leaders had no experience working with United's fleet managers. Playing catch up in the second half of the year worsened our ability to cover flights and was costing 250,000-300,000 a month in overtime for erj instructors. Those are facts.

The people in Atlanta know the Delta operation and are completely clueless on the United way of doing things. They have proven themselves completely incapable of running an airline this size for any airline other than Delta. United usually makes fleet decisions about 4-6 months out and will renew or cancel a contract in that time frame.

Holt and our mormon buddies from Utah stopped bidding on profitable, short term contract extensions for the ERJ side about a year ago for a very specific reason. Their plan is based on calling United's bluff. They have proposed a big draw down in regional aircraft (40+ a month for NOV and DEC) over a short amount of time to see if they can pressure United into reworking the ERJ CPA. Reworking the CPA is actually bad news for the erj side. They will rework the compensation to park LR's and ER's at a slightly slower rate but will ultimately be left with XR's and a few LR's. Skywest Airlines will benefit the most as they will park CRJ 200's to staff 175 deliveries.

The line pilots will pay the price of having a clueless management and a dying aircraft. They don't need their own ALPA people to hurry their demise. Seeing a member of ALPA leadership trying to manipulate HIS OWN COMPANIES pilots with half truths and misinformation is pretty disgusting to me. You guys need to be one voice against the company and not a disgruntled lifer stirring the pot. Seeing you and the ASA MEC get all serious about the company "opening their wallet" would be really cute if it hadn't already been said 3 years ago. Are you really going to make the same mistakes our union leadership made then or are you going to see that stirring up the other side with baseless info is killing the collective cause? Right now it is deja vu.
Quote: XJT offered the current SKW contract in exchange for one list and that alone would save Inc about $30 million (number confirmed by the JNC) a year in LASA and LXJT pilot cost but Inc said no thanks.
That wasn't part of Nevets original statement. Remove the part where you take concessions to be thrown a lifeline on the OO seniority list, and tell me where the savings are with a one-list.
Quote: Skywest Airlines will benefit the most as they will park CRJ 200's to staff 175 deliveries.
Incorrect. The only 200s being parked are the ones that were originally delivered way back in 1995. They are being replaced with 200s from the LASA side, and a few extra have been pulled out of the desert. SkyWest has grown from 156 200s two months ago to 162 currently.

I'm not saying the possibility to park 200s to staff E-175s isn't a possibility, but it is not the plan at this point in time.
There are 2 aircraft in the SkyWest hangar that say "Operated by ExpressJet" getting new engines, right now.

Sorry guys.......
All this bickering back and forth is dumb. NONE of you have any idea what Inc and ExpressJet are actually planing. There is only speculation. So jumping at each others throats just helps them and hurts us
Quote: Nevets, please explain to me, in detail, how a one-list will save Inc. money.
Ask Captain Tony. It was his post I was quoting that said that Inc can save money by completing the merger of ASA/XJT. I used his logic to come to that conclusion. You don't agree with him?
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