What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
04-29-2014 | 04:41 AM
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I think he means ExpressJet as a whole is being held hostage by the SkyWest side. Either way, it was a stupid analogy.
04-29-2014 | 04:54 AM
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We will get some airplanes, but once our cost is set, they can go to the Skywesties and give them the maximum number of airplanes allowed by our scope agreement, and then proceed to violate our scope with more airplanes to their side that we can possibly fight about in court, if ALPA will bother to fight it. So scope is key, how Inc. allocates the airplanes, or figures out how to push pilots to the cheaper side.
04-29-2014 | 05:12 AM
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SkyWest Inc. is going to shrink XJT down to just the furlough protected ASA pilots, then merge them into SkyWest eventually. At that point we will all be done with the legacy XJT tumor/nightmare.
04-29-2014 | 06:41 AM
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"We"=83% of XJT pilots who refused TA1 because "We" saw it for the empty bag it was.
04-29-2014 | 07:00 AM
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Troll much?
04-29-2014 | 07:32 AM
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The side that flies nothing but 50-seats-or-less jets? How much should a pilot group like that be paid? I guess you deserve a CRJ9 override for flying a 135. Is that what it will take? Gee...how could any regional in the US not JUMP at the opportunity to throw that kind of cash at you guys?
04-29-2014 | 07:49 AM
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The side that flies nothing but 50-seats-or-less jets? How much should a pilot group like that be paid? I guess you deserve a CRJ9 override for flying a 135. Is that what it will take? Gee...how could any regional in the US not JUMP at the opportunity to throw that kind of cash at you guys?
...I was thinking a pay raise for all pilots at Expressjet (LXJT & LASA).
04-29-2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Our current contract is already millions more expensive than Skywest's. We won't vote in a concessionary contract. So any new contract we do vote in will be even more expensive. So I don't see us getting any new flying either way. We are held hostage by the inmates on the other side of the prison.
Don't they basically have what we have? I thought they got our pay plus 2% or something like that. I don't see how their contract is so much cheaper than ours. Maybe I don't understand something about how it works over there. The way this airline has been run the past few years and contracts that were signed with the majors seem to be a higher cost and the biggest expense to this airline. They are the reason we cost so much. I fail to see the peanuts we make as "expensive". That just sounds like an excuse to force concessions. Of course paying your pilots costs money, but to the point you can't afford it?
Originally Posted by Nevets
Our current contract is already millions more expensive than Skywest's. We won't vote in a concessionary contract. So any new contract we do vote in will be even more expensive. So I don't see us getting any new flying either way. We are held hostage by the inmates on the other side of the prison.
Don't they basically have what we have? I thought they got our pay plus 2% or something like that. I don't see how their contract is so much cheaper than ours. Maybe I don't understand something about how it works over there. The way this airline has been run the past few years and contracts that were signed with the majors seem to be a higher cost and the biggest expense to this airline. They are the reason we cost so much. I fail to see the peanuts we make as "expensive". That just sounds like an excuse to force concessions. Of course paying your pilots costs money, but to the point you can't afford it?
They sell the kool aid really well over there. They all think they are the best compensated and best QOL but they are just average.
04-29-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Our current contract is already millions more expensive than Skywest's. We won't vote in a concessionary contract. So any new contract we do vote in will be even more expensive. So I don't see us getting any new flying either way. We are held hostage by the inmates on the other side of the prison.
By your repeated use of "we" may "we" assume you are an MEC spokesperson for the pilot group, conveying an official message Luis? good to know your pilot group is being held hostage by us ASA bullies. I find that statement extremely ironic.
Originally Posted by Nevets
Our current contract is already millions more expensive than Skywest's. We won't vote in a concessionary contract. So any new contract we do vote in will be even more expensive. So I don't see us getting any new flying either way. We are held hostage by the inmates on the other side of the prison.
By your repeated use of "we" may "we" assume you are an MEC spokesperson for the pilot group, conveying an official message Luis? good to know your pilot group is being held hostage by us ASA bullies. I find that statement extremely ironic.
By the way, what is the date of that meeting you mentioned? Is it with the NMB appointed mediator?
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
By your repeated use of "we" may "we" assume you are an MEC spokesperson for the pilot group, conveying an official message Luis? good to know your pilot group is being held hostage by us ASA bullies. I find that statement extremely ironic.
I think he means ExpressJet as a whole is being held hostage by the SkyWest side. Either way, it was a stupid analogy.
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
By your repeated use of "we" may "we" assume you are an MEC spokesperson for the pilot group, conveying an official message Luis? good to know your pilot group is being held hostage by us ASA bullies. I find that statement extremely ironic.
I think he means ExpressJet as a whole is being held hostage by the SkyWest side. Either way, it was a stupid analogy.
04-29-2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
The side that doesn't want to pay the pilots what we are worth. I fully agree
The side that flies nothing but 50-seats-or-less jets? How much should a pilot group like that be paid? I guess you deserve a CRJ9 override for flying a 135. Is that what it will take? Gee...how could any regional in the US not JUMP at the opportunity to throw that kind of cash at you guys?
Originally Posted by Der Meister
The side that doesn't want to pay the pilots what we are worth. I fully agree
The side that flies nothing but 50-seats-or-less jets? How much should a pilot group like that be paid? I guess you deserve a CRJ9 override for flying a 135. Is that what it will take? Gee...how could any regional in the US not JUMP at the opportunity to throw that kind of cash at you guys?
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