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Old 05-05-2014 | 07:14 PM
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Old 05-06-2014 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
With SKW Inc fixing to report a loss for the 1st quarter mostly in part to the weather related cancellations on the ExpressJet side of the company, I wouldn't expect any real advance in contract talks.

I would expect Inc to finally show its hand on what it expects to do with ExpressJet as the investors will surely be pressuring them to put an end to the loss making entity.
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
Old 05-06-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?
Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
Old 05-06-2014 | 12:58 PM
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This will be a interesting call.. We all want EFB's but thats a 5mill investment for the company.. And if were in the negitive i doubt they will do any capital expenditures... I want to know the plan. They can't change the CPA with UA.. So what will they do..
Old 05-06-2014 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.
There's probably a good chance of that happening. As I look down the C concourse in MSP today I see planes with QX,PQ, and CA tail numbers all of which are operated by Skywest or Skywest Inc. today
Old 05-06-2014 | 01:55 PM
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Perhaps he/she is a junior sKYW pilot and is hoping for our demise so that they will win more CPA's and he/she will upgrade and all of us at XJT will become new hires at SKYW and be his/her fo.
Or perhaps he/she is trolling and just stirring the pot.
I guess time will tell.




There's probably a good chance of that happening. As I look down the C concourse in MSP today I see planes with QX,PQ, and CA tail numbers all of which are operated by Skywest or Skywest Inc. today
That's fine. Let the Skywest pilots fly them for less compensation. Because I certainly don't want to do it for a pent less than what I do it for today.

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This will be a interesting call.. We all want EFB's but thats a 5mill investment for the company.. And if were in the negitive i doubt they will do any capital expenditures... I want to know the plan. They can't change the CPA with UA.. So what will they do..
Why are we worrying about EFBs? They shouldn't spend money on this unless it saves them money somehow.
Old 05-06-2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?

I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
Old 05-06-2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
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What possible scenario has played out in your head to where if your fellow pilots suffer you gain?
Eagle suffers, industry suffers
Pinnacle suffers, industry suffers
PSA suffers, industry suffers
XJT suffers, you gain?





I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
Well, one good solution, especially to ALL us pilots, is one list. Why pay for two management teams, two infrastructures, two processes, systems, staff, two of everything? They rather us XJT pilots subsidize the cost of all that with concessions! Why? Because one pilot group refuses to engage.
Old 05-06-2014 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
I think this is why people at OO think negatively of you guys. Nobody is wishing harm upon you, nobody is blaming you for anything. But the facts are the facts. You guys are not making money. There is no way United is going to make changes to the CPA. United wants to get rid of 50 seaters. It's business. If your business is losing money, you don't throw more money at it just to make the pilots happy in a feel good moment. You have to make tough choices to help reduce the loss and right the ship. Nobody is hoping you guys are all out of a job, nobody is hoping that you guys get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. But we can no longer tolerate the excessive losses that are attributed to the L-XJ side of the operation. There are no good solutions or no answers that will make everyone happy, but the losses can't be sustained.
You talk about this as though you're calling the shots of XJT. Give me a break dude. Fact is, its Skywests fault those CPA's exist. Skywest is spending a lot of money fixing the XJT operation, they aren't doing that to shut the doors. They have been opening domiciles, replacing management etc etc.
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I had the United Airlines ALPA MEC in my jumpseat a few weeks ago and he told me that SkyWest Inc. currently operates about 400 fifty seat jets for United and they want to cut that number down to 128 in the next few years. They want to accelerate the rate at which these airplanes are originally going to go out of contract.
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