What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
10-05-2012, 09:43 AM
#921
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If you are at ATP mins I don't see why they shouldn't put you through the ATP & PIC type curriculum in initial.
10-05-2012, 09:47 AM
#922
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From the emails I got seems like this whole class has over 1500. And they made me take my written before the first day.
10-05-2012, 10:04 AM
#923
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I have said this many times over. It is my firm belief that asa/xjt will not be able to find qualified pilots in 2013. The pilots they will need for attrition and rest rules will be so significant that they simply will not find them at the pay scales they have in place. Qualified ATP's will simply not come to the airline for 20K.
My guess is that attrition will increase to 20-30/ a month on the crj side and 40-60/ a month on the erj side. On top of this will be the rest rules that they MUST prepare for in advance. My guess would be an increase of about 10-15% more pilots (of the total group). That would be about 500 on the low side just for rest rules. If you combine that with attrition we may be looking at 1000 pilots or more. The only option will be to shrink the airline. Most likely, the new ual contract will bring back a large percentage of regional flying to UAL in exchange for relief of 70 seat scope. Im sure XJET is planning on this because they will not find pilots.
My guess is that attrition will increase to 20-30/ a month on the crj side and 40-60/ a month on the erj side. On top of this will be the rest rules that they MUST prepare for in advance. My guess would be an increase of about 10-15% more pilots (of the total group). That would be about 500 on the low side just for rest rules. If you combine that with attrition we may be looking at 1000 pilots or more. The only option will be to shrink the airline. Most likely, the new ual contract will bring back a large percentage of regional flying to UAL in exchange for relief of 70 seat scope. Im sure XJET is planning on this because they will not find pilots.
10-05-2012, 10:40 AM
#924
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Originally Posted by Loudoun
In the July 9th and July 23rd classes the new hires earned SIC types, and were told the ATP and PIC type would be earned upon returning to the schoolhouse for the six month check-up.
10-05-2012, 12:13 PM
#925
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
I have said this many times over. It is my firm belief that asa/xjt will not be able to find qualified pilots in 2013. The pilots they will need for attrition and rest rules will be so significant that they simply will not find them at the pay scales they have in place. Qualified ATP's will simply not come to the airline for 20K.
My guess is that attrition will increase to 20-30/ a month on the crj side and 40-60/ a month on the erj side. On top of this will be the rest rules that they MUST prepare for in advance. My guess would be an increase of about 10-15% more pilots (of the total group). That would be about 500 on the low side just for rest rules. If you combine that with attrition we may be looking at 1000 pilots or more. The only option will be to shrink the airline. Most likely, the new ual contract will bring back a large percentage of regional flying to UAL in exchange for relief of 70 seat scope. Im sure XJET is planning on this because they will not find pilots.
My guess is that attrition will increase to 20-30/ a month on the crj side and 40-60/ a month on the erj side. On top of this will be the rest rules that they MUST prepare for in advance. My guess would be an increase of about 10-15% more pilots (of the total group). That would be about 500 on the low side just for rest rules. If you combine that with attrition we may be looking at 1000 pilots or more. The only option will be to shrink the airline. Most likely, the new ual contract will bring back a large percentage of regional flying to UAL in exchange for relief of 70 seat scope. Im sure XJET is planning on this because they will not find pilots.
Hope you're right about the future hiring and lack of interested applicants. However I don't think ExpressJet will have that much trouble finding people, seeing as that there are plenty of Comair guys out on the street and looming furloughs at Pinnacle. My guess is that the hiring due to FT/DT rules and retirements at the majors will be somewhat mitigated by scope relaxation at United and a possible merger between US and American*. Not to mention the possibility that the economy might tank again...But, like I said, I hope I'm wrong and you're right!
*This will only be for the next few years, once we get closer to 2015 I think every major will be hiring in droves simply due to retirements.
10-05-2012, 07:31 PM
#926
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Originally Posted by Hurryage65
From the emails I got seems like this whole class has over 1500. And they made me take my written before the first day.
10-05-2012, 07:42 PM
#927
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
If you look at the pilot attrition data on the home page you can see a big chunk of the group have been leaving for career changes. In talking to the chief pilots they say that the majority of people leaving are junior F.O.s on reserve. Any hiring is to replenish the tail end of the group. So it's not really healthy productive attrition. No one is leaving or moving in the middle of the list. At least from my standpoint I haven't moved up in years. Still sliding backwards. But that is probably just the ATL CR7.
Wrong.
10-05-2012, 08:27 PM
#928
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Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse
Because everyone always tells management where they are going... They have no idea what I'm doing... probably put me down as career change as well.
Wrong.
Wrong.
10-06-2012, 12:55 AM
#929
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Originally Posted by Trip7
They can't find 24 people with 1200TT?!? I thought they had a pool?
Guess everyone is going to RAH for the 5k bonus.
Guess everyone is going to RAH for the 5k bonus.
10-06-2012, 03:22 AM
#930
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Originally Posted by blakman7
Oh God I hope not.
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