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#6281
Actually, if you ever bothered to read the ALPA Constitution&Bylaws, you would know that an LEC (member) can NOT mandate an MEC member. The MEC members (also ALPA BOD members) are the highest governing body in the union, and they are autonomous to make decisions they feel are in the best interests of their pilot group and the Association. The only recourse the LEC (you) have is to organize a recall.
I suppose you think your Congressman should call thousands of constituents every time he has to make an important decision too? LMAO!!!!
#6283
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Reclined seat
Posts: 629
Apples and oranges. The UAW workers were grossly overpaid for the job they did. Knocking together crappy GM cars for $73 an hour plus lavish benefits and pensions? They made more than just about any regional pilot. We are already grossly underpaid, and mgmt wants us to make even less when demand for our skills is at an all-time high? FUPM!
#6284
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
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Originally Posted by Nevets
But my point is that, as an employee, I don't have any responsibility to our ceo's other employees. His immoral business decisions have more consequences on his employees than my one vote.
I agree with your right to form your own opinion. You have to decide the limit of your responsibility for yourself. "Moral business" is a bit of an oxymoron, which sounds much more flippant than I honestly intend.
Originally Posted by Nevets
But my point is that, as an employee, I don't have any responsibility to our ceo's other employees. His immoral business decisions have more consequences on his employees than my one vote.
I agree with your right to form your own opinion. You have to decide the limit of your responsibility for yourself. "Moral business" is a bit of an oxymoron, which sounds much more flippant than I honestly intend.
<5 100% up to 4%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution
<5 2.5%
5<10 4%
10<15 5%
15<20 5.5%
20+ 6.0 %
Sick accrual is 5 hours per month.
Vacation accrual
1 year 7 days
2-6 years 14 days
7-10 years 21 days
11+ years 28 days
Per diem $1.80
Premiums are capped at 25% maximum.
We also have an OJI bank of 400 hours. And a very good LTD plan as well. Those are huge as well.
Last edited by Nevets; 06-08-2014 at 08:55 AM.
#6285
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 205
For the life of me, I cannot understand why ASA guys come on here and try to persuade XJT guys that they are too expensive. To my mind, ASA labor is too cheap. Hell, XJT labor is too cheap! Your pilot group stood up last autumn, guys--it would benefit all of us if you were to stop undermining their achievement by airing your pessimism so publicly.
#6286
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 56
Well, I didn't actually say anything about opinions. Of course we are entitled to them. And I understand that I'm responsible for my own actions as they pertain to me and my family. I don't have any fiduciary responsibility to anyone else other than my family. But you still failed to answer my question about our CEO and his responsibilities to his employees. Aren't his decisions more consequential on his own employees than my one out of 4500 vote?
401k match
<5 100% up to 4%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution
<5 2.5%
5<10 4%
10<15 5%
15<20 5.5%
20+ 6.0 %
Sick accrual is 5 hours per month.
Vacation accrual
1 year 7 days
2-6 years 14 days
7-10 years 21 days
11+ years 28 days
Per diem $1.80
Premiums are capped at 25% maximum.
We also have an OJI bank of 400 hours. And a very good LTD plan as well. Those are huge as well.
401k match
<5 100% up to 4%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution
<5 2.5%
5<10 4%
10<15 5%
15<20 5.5%
20+ 6.0 %
Sick accrual is 5 hours per month.
Vacation accrual
1 year 7 days
2-6 years 14 days
7-10 years 21 days
11+ years 28 days
Per diem $1.80
Premiums are capped at 25% maximum.
We also have an OJI bank of 400 hours. And a very good LTD plan as well. Those are huge as well.
The DC (Defined Contribution) plan is an additional quarterly payout into your 401k fund. In my case, it’s an extra $4500 annually. This payout grows with your regular 401k match and contribution and if you think about it over long term, the DC plan can worth be hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The LTD plan that pays 55% of 80 hours (tax free) up to age 65 if a pilot loses his/her medical certificate and up to two years for psychological leaves (depression). Any other income that does not require an FAA Medical Certificate will not offset this payout. So, if you are getting 3000 a month from LTD, and you are able to pursue another career, you can still collect the 3000 until you age 65. Why would you not want something to protect your income if you lose your medical? I think most Legacy carriers have this type of plan.
#6287
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: emb-145 ca
Posts: 212
For the life of me, I cannot understand why ASA guys come on here and try to persuade XJT guys that they are too expensive. To my mind, ASA labor is too cheap. Hell, XJT labor is too cheap! Your pilot group stood up last autumn, guys--it would benefit all of us if you were to stop undermining their achievement by airing your pessimism so publicly.
The best thing that could happen to the US pilot workforce is foreign carriers opening more US domiciles to source what pilot labor they can. Then the true cost of pilot labor will be fully realized.
#6288
The best thing that could happen to the US pilot workforce is foreign carriers opening more US domiciles to source what pilot labor they can
#6289
For the life of me, I cannot understand why ASA guys come on here and try to persuade XJT guys that they are too expensive. To my mind, ASA labor is too cheap. Hell, XJT labor is too cheap! Your pilot group stood up last autumn, guys--it would benefit all of us if you were to stop undermining their achievement by airing your pessimism so publicly.
#6290
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 361
For the life of me, I cannot understand why ASA guys come on here and try to persuade XJT guys that they are too expensive. To my mind, ASA labor is too cheap. Hell, XJT labor is too cheap! Your pilot group stood up last autumn, guys--it would benefit all of us if you were to stop undermining their achievement by airing your pessimism so publicly.
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