What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
06-07-2014 | 07:18 PM
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It still doesn't explain why, us as pilots, have more responsibility to our ceo's employees than he does? Can you at least answer that? I find it off that you would defend any human being that uses an immoral whipsaw business model against us.
Anyway, I've already assumed that all the ERJs are getting parked. I have absolutely no problems with that. You have anything else?
Its not a question of more or less responsibility. It's a question of ability to live with the consequences of one's actions. Your emotional and continued justification of what you think is right belies your maturity level.
Originally Posted by Nevets
It still doesn't explain why, us as pilots, have more responsibility to our ceo's employees than he does? Can you at least answer that? I find it off that you would defend any human being that uses an immoral whipsaw business model against us.
Anyway, I've already assumed that all the ERJs are getting parked. I have absolutely no problems with that. You have anything else?
Its not a question of more or less responsibility. It's a question of ability to live with the consequences of one's actions. Your emotional and continued justification of what you think is right belies your maturity level.
06-07-2014 | 07:22 PM
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I seriously hope you aren't representing the pilot group... you are entirely too emotional.
06-07-2014 | 07:31 PM
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So, since our CEO has the ability to live with the consequences of his actions, it's ok. But for me, it isn't? Why is that?
Never said that. You are so desperate to be right you are assuming I'm calling you wrong... I haven't disagreed with anything you've assumed.
Originally Posted by Nevets
So, since our CEO has the ability to live with the consequences of his actions, it's ok. But for me, it isn't? Why is that?
Never said that. You are so desperate to be right you are assuming I'm calling you wrong... I haven't disagreed with anything you've assumed.
Do you disagree with any of that? If not, then I did misunderstand.
06-07-2014 | 07:41 PM
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I agree with your right to form your own opinion. You have to decide the limit of your responsibility for yourself. "Moral business" is a bit of an oxymoron, which sounds much more flippant than I honestly intend.
06-07-2014 | 09:42 PM
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What is XJT 401K match? What is your sick and vacation accrual rate? What are your insurance premiums? What is your per diem as well?
06-07-2014 | 09:47 PM
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There is not. Theoretically, UAL could allow the leases to expire, then re-lease them to SkyWest or ASA under a new CPA. The current XJT contract has practically no scope protections, and the TPA only prohibits a direct aircraft transfer.
06-07-2014 | 09:51 PM
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Actually, if you ever bothered to read the ALPA Constitution&Bylaws, you would know that an LEC (member) can NOT mandate an MEC member. The MEC members (also ALPA BOD members) are the highest governing body in the union, and they are autonomous to make decisions they feel are in the best interests of their pilot group and the Association. The only recourse the LEC (you) have is to organize a recall.
I suppose you think your Congressman should call thousands of constituents every time he has to make an important decision too? LMAO!!!!
06-08-2014 | 12:25 AM
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It would be easy to put out an internet pol every time before a vote...
06-08-2014 | 03:39 AM
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Apples and oranges. The UAW workers were grossly overpaid for the job they did. Knocking together crappy GM cars for $73 an hour plus lavish benefits and pensions? They made more than just about any regional pilot. We are already grossly underpaid, and mgmt wants us to make even less when demand for our skills is at an all-time high? FUPM!
06-08-2014 | 08:41 AM
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From: EMB 145 CPT
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But my point is that, as an employee, I don't have any responsibility to our ceo's other employees. His immoral business decisions have more consequences on his employees than my one vote.
I agree with your right to form your own opinion. You have to decide the limit of your responsibility for yourself. "Moral business" is a bit of an oxymoron, which sounds much more flippant than I honestly intend.
Originally Posted by Nevets
But my point is that, as an employee, I don't have any responsibility to our ceo's other employees. His immoral business decisions have more consequences on his employees than my one vote.
I agree with your right to form your own opinion. You have to decide the limit of your responsibility for yourself. "Moral business" is a bit of an oxymoron, which sounds much more flippant than I honestly intend.
<5 100% up to 4%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution
<5 2.5%
5<10 4%
10<15 5%
15<20 5.5%
20+ 6.0 %
Sick accrual is 5 hours per month.
Vacation accrual
1 year 7 days
2-6 years 14 days
7-10 years 21 days
11+ years 28 days
Per diem $1.80
Premiums are capped at 25% maximum.
We also have an OJI bank of 400 hours. And a very good LTD plan as well. Those are huge as well.
Last edited by Nevets; 06-08-2014 at 08:55 AM.
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