What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
06-24-2014 | 11:35 AM
#6551
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The way the industry looks, your assessment is mostly correct.
The point of working is to make money. Looking at myself as if I were a business, my profit is MMMTO. My cost is TAFB.
While the decision to make money via aviation may not have been the good one, no one gets into a job PURELY for the love of the job. It's a bonus, sure, but if I have to be poor at home, there isn't a point.
The point of working is to make money. Looking at myself as if I were a business, my profit is MMMTO. My cost is TAFB.
While the decision to make money via aviation may not have been the good one, no one gets into a job PURELY for the love of the job. It's a bonus, sure, but if I have to be poor at home, there isn't a point.
06-24-2014 | 04:50 PM
#6552
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From: EMB 145 CPT
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
How will taking concessions stop this airline from shrinking? 83%+ are ok with the consequences of not accepting concessions.
Concessions is an open statement. The ERJ guys are saying that PBS is a concession, only because they want the ability to intentionally bid high credit trips that conflict with vacation and/or training, which will be dropped and pay protected.
While I agree that it is nice, I don't think that should be able to be done. Maybe it's just my work ethic, but I believe you should work to be paid, not get paid not to work.
Originally Posted by flyguy94
How will taking concessions stop this airline from shrinking? 83%+ are ok with the consequences of not accepting concessions.
Concessions is an open statement. The ERJ guys are saying that PBS is a concession, only because they want the ability to intentionally bid high credit trips that conflict with vacation and/or training, which will be dropped and pay protected.
While I agree that it is nice, I don't think that should be able to be done. Maybe it's just my work ethic, but I believe you should work to be paid, not get paid not to work.
Everyone's work rules are just a way to calculate your compensation. You do what you want with your days off, whether that is working more or spending it with their children.
06-25-2014 | 03:13 AM
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It has nothing to do with work ethics. For example, someone who maximizes their time off with their vacation week may go ahead and pick up a few trips during those days off and end up with 12 days off and 125 hours of credit. Would you say that person has a lack of work ethic?
Everyone's work rules are just a way to calculate your compensation. You do what you want with your days off, whether that is working more or spending it with their children.
Everyone's work rules are just a way to calculate your compensation. You do what you want with your days off, whether that is working more or spending it with their children.
06-25-2014 | 04:09 AM
#6554
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The company works us to the limits of the contract (and sometimes more). We take advantage of the contract as well. If either party has a problem with it, amend the contract. The total compensation the pilot group receives has all the work rules built in. If you are not taking advantage of the contract you are shorting yourself, not exploiting the company.
06-25-2014 | 05:57 AM
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Management thinks double dipping is awesome! They do it all the time. So why do pilots fight that so hard? Double dip as much as management and stop the freaking hand ringing already!
06-25-2014 | 08:27 AM
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Two negatives don't make a positive except in math, but the way management takes advantage of their employees makes it hard to be the better person
06-25-2014 | 08:38 AM
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Do you also not participate in the 401k match? You didn't work for that either.
06-25-2014 | 01:39 PM
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Some of you guys, wow.
06-25-2014 | 05:45 PM
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06-25-2014 | 05:50 PM
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Anyone know what the current reserve times are for each base on the crj side?
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