I'm a bit disappointed to see former ASA pilots shiitting over the pilots that are still there. I'm disappointed to see current guys going after the ones that left. Everyone has their reasons to leave or stay. There's no unity in this airline and that's why we are in the spot we are. Between the association and management and the lying from everywhere to the pilots, this is all just another kick in the nuts.

 

Plenty of unity amongst the top 70% of Captains; and that's why I left.

 

I left because of the horrible pay as an FO.

 

I left for the same reason AND the lack of respect for pilots by the management. When your told in front of a crew room full of IAH pilots by the former CEO Charlie .... that “if you don't like the pay you shouldn’t be here” I had seen and heard enough.

 

Alternative Facts are everywhere these days.

 

What's the DTW/LGA news?

 

Downsizing DTW and opening up LGA. No added flying, just basically splitting the base. FA union sent out a email saying that DTW is actually closing. Company says no that's not happening. Basically no one know *** is going on.

 

I certainly hope my posts aren't interpreted that way.

I didn't intend that-at all.

Just trying to be helpful. I know some folks are still on the fence. They shouldn't be.

Trying to share my opinion in a non-insulting way. For a long time, I thought that ASA would be picking up some new flying somewhere-maybe getting the e-170 or something. I definitely don't think that anymore. With all the legacies scraping and clawing to find pilots for their regionals, you'd think ASA would be in a great position-given that they have a surplus of experienced pilots. If the company can't find new flying at this point, it is game over. Regional feed is in a tough spot these days. Most regionals are desperate for pilots. ASA is parking half the fleet. I can't see that as a good thing on any level.

The job market (finally) looks good. Take advantage of it. People should reconsider the term "lateral move" when an airline is closing.

It's only my opinion, but it is a very strong one. I very much think ASA is closing-probably will be around until the delta contract expires-but after that date, I just don't see it.

I'm very sad about the situation-but it's real. This is not a drill. I don't see any way things will improve. I hope things work out-but really... Has any regional ever parked half the fleet and survived? How does that even work?

Not trying to insult anyone.

 

Three days grace wrote a song about XJT. "Over and Over"... i agree now is the time for lateral moves.. bonus money plus quick upgrades.. places not to go laterally. Horizon, XJT, Compass, Mesa... safer bets. Enovy, Endeavor, PSA, SkyWest.

 

Yep. Some regionals pay 65K for new hires. Spirit and Frontier have very quick upgrades-plus you get a type rating that most legacies would look at favorably. I wouldn't view any of that stuff as lateral.

Fate has dealt ASA a raw deal-but you don't have to play that hand if you can come up with a better one.

Best of luck-sincerely.