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Old 01-28-2017 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying is Cool
Was in DTW today with a minor MX issue, lovely the Skywest MX guys referred to us as "ExpressMess." Great group over there.
I had the same experience. Incredibly condescending response from our former mechs. I wanted to write them up...redneckery right out of the ATL playbook.
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Old 01-28-2017 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
I had the same experience. Incredibly condescending response from our former mechs. I wanted to write them up...redneckery right out of the ATL playbook.
Oh that's a good one. Haven't heard that one before. I still think distressjet is the most accurate for us
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Old 01-28-2017 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CmonSon
Oh that's a good one. Haven't heard that one before. I still think distressjet is the most accurate for us
When I worked there I came up with DepressJet
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Old 01-29-2017 | 05:35 AM
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I don't understand how anyone is still in denial about the future. It's obvious that SKYW is not interested in dealing with unions anymore-and they are flushing all union labor.

I decided to get out several years ago (took years of apps and job fairs, but finally I got lucky.) It's taken some sacrifice, my schedule is a shadow of it's former glory, but I'm glad I made the jump. There are a bunch of great people still at the company, and I miss working with them.

If anyone still is on the fence, they should get off. I'm not any smarter than anyone else, but I definitely didn't see good things happening once the company decided to start parking planes. I can't think of any regional which has ever survived parking half it's fleet.

If I were still there, I'd get out to anywhere ASAP. Somehow, a lot of the folks I know still tell me about how they are still thinking about getting their apps out. Be aggressive, apply everywhere-don't get discouraged if you get shot down for one job-keep trying. I had an interview somewhere I really wanted to work-and was shot down. I didn't care... I kept after it 100%. Went to more job fairs than I care to recall. Eventually, a great airline called, and I was prepared when I showed up for the interview. Took a ton of prep work, but they like to see that. Don't show up unprepared-find out everything you can about the interview up front. I think most airlines look at interview prep as a good indicator of how well you would prepare for training. Don't show up cold.

Some of it is luck-but in most ways, we make our own luck. Stop thinking about apps, and do something. The end is coming. I don't like it. ASA was a great place to work-with a wonderful bunch of people. It's done. It's over. Once the delta contract ends, it's 100% done. I don't like it, but that's the reality. It's the truth-as I see it.

The time for thinking is long past. Get out now.

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Old 01-29-2017 | 05:50 AM
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And DON'T listen to anyone running around the lounge spouting about how you are:
-Too old
-Too experienced
-Too WASPy
-Not recently gone through initial
-Too anything else they can think of.

That is 100% BS. I don't understand why some people do that. Don't try and talk yourself out of success-and don't discourage others. I can think of exceptions to every single one of those things I've ever heard. I know people who have failed check rides and had real life violations who wound up at the airline of their choice. I was supposed to be "too this and that," but none of it matters once you sit down at the interview. It's all up to you to turn any of that stuff into a positive-and it can be done.

**** all that noise. Get after it! Make your own fate! Ignore all the guys who say all that stuff. They are 100% wrong.
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Old 01-29-2017 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
And DON'T listen to anyone running around the lounge spouting about how you are:
-Too old
-Too experienced
-Too WASPy
-Not recently gone through initial
-Too anything else they can think of.

That is 100% BS. I don't understand why some people do that. Don't try and talk yourself out of success-and don't discourage others. I can think of exceptions to every single one of those things I've ever heard. I know people who have failed check rides and had real life violations who wound up at the airline of their choice. I was supposed to be "too this and that," but none of it matters once you sit down at the interview. It's all up to you to turn any of that stuff into a positive-and it can be done.

**** all that noise. Get after it! Make your own fate! Ignore all the guys who say all that stuff. They are 100% wrong.
You forgot about the other at the company that tell everyone that those leaving are a big part of the problem and are sell outs. Those are the same people that seem to think that everyone else stole "their" planes.
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Old 01-29-2017 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
You forgot about the other at the company that tell everyone that those leaving are a big part of the problem and are sell outs. Those are the same people that seem to think that everyone else stole "their" planes.

I don't remember running across those guys. That's a very strange attitude.

I don't understand accusing anyone of "selling out" for trying to escape a place which is almost certainly closing.
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Old 01-29-2017 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
I don't understand how anyone is still in denial about the future. It's obvious that SKYW is not interested in dealing with unions anymore-and they are flushing all union labor.

I decided to get out several years ago (took years of apps and job fairs, but finally I got lucky.) It's taken some sacrifice, my schedule is a shadow of it's former glory, but I'm glad I made the jump. There are a bunch of great people still at the company, and I miss working with them.

If anyone still is on the fence, they should get off. I'm not any smarter than anyone else, but I definitely didn't see good things happening once the company decided to start parking planes. I can't think of any regional which has ever survived parking half it's fleet.

If I were still there, I'd get out to anywhere ASAP. Somehow, a lot of the folks I know still tell me about how they are still thinking about getting their apps out. Be aggressive, apply everywhere-don't get discouraged if you get shot down for one job-keep trying. I had an interview somewhere I really wanted to work-and was shot down. I didn't care... I kept after it 100%. Went to more job fairs than I care to recall. Eventually, a great airline called, and I was prepared when I showed up for the interview. Took a ton of prep work, but they like to see that. Don't show up unprepared-find out everything you can about the interview up front. I think most airlines look at interview prep as a good indicator of how well you would prepare for training. Don't show up cold.

Some of it is luck-but in most ways, we make our own luck. Stop thinking about apps, and do something. The end is coming. I don't like it. ASA was a great place to work-with a wonderful bunch of people. It's done. It's over. Once the delta contract ends, it's 100% done. I don't like it, but that's the reality. It's the truth-as I see it.

The time for thinking is long past. Get out now.
Originally Posted by jcountry
And DON'T listen to anyone running around the lounge spouting about how you are:
-Too old
-Too experienced
-Too WASPy
-Not recently gone through initial
-Too anything else they can think of.

That is 100% BS. I don't understand why some people do that. Don't try and talk yourself out of success-and don't discourage others. I can think of exceptions to every single one of those things I've ever heard. I know people who have failed check rides and had real life violations who wound up at the airline of their choice. I was supposed to be "too this and that," but none of it matters once you sit down at the interview. It's all up to you to turn any of that stuff into a positive-and it can be done.

**** all that noise. Get after it! Make your own fate! Ignore all the guys who say all that stuff. They are 100% wrong.


Suggestion. How about worrying about your own life and let the Expressjet guys worry about theirs Dr. Phil.
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Old 01-29-2017 | 10:25 AM
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You read great advice from someone who has gone before you, and succeeded in moving up, and you tell him to shut up. *SMH*

Keep that up and you won't go very far in life.

Originally Posted by Bozo
Suggestion. How about worrying about your own life and let the Expressjet guys worry about theirs Dr. Phil.
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Old 01-29-2017 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
Suggestion. How about worrying about your own life and let the Expressjet guys worry about theirs Dr. Phil.


Just calling it the way I see it. I've been wrong before, and I'd love to be wrong about this.....

I wasn't trying to throw stones or pass judgement, I was just sharing my view that the situation looks real bad. I can't imagine how parking half the fleet could possibly be a good thing-but hey, I'm no MBA-by any means.

I sincerely wish you all the very best of luck. I spent a long time at the place, and I'll always think highly of the people I worked with. The jobs market is very good right now. I'd take advantage of it.
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