L-ASA (ExpressJet CRJ side)
#231
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Joined: Jan 2015
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From: CRJ 200 CA
I certainly hope my posts aren't interpreted that way.
I didn't intend that-at all.
Just trying to be helpful. I know some folks are still on the fence. They shouldn't be.
Trying to share my opinion in a non-insulting way. For a long time, I thought that ASA would be picking up some new flying somewhere-maybe getting the e-170 or something. I definitely don't think that anymore. With all the legacies scraping and clawing to find pilots for their regionals, you'd think ASA would be in a great position-given that they have a surplus of experienced pilots. If the company can't find new flying at this point, it is game over. Regional feed is in a tough spot these days. Most regionals are desperate for pilots. ASA is parking half the fleet. I can't see that as a good thing on any level.
The job market (finally) looks good. Take advantage of it. People should reconsider the term "lateral move" when an airline is closing.
It's only my opinion, but it is a very strong one. I very much think ASA is closing-probably will be around until the delta contract expires-but after that date, I just don't see it.
I'm very sad about the situation-but it's real. This is not a drill. I don't see any way things will improve. I hope things work out-but really... Has any regional ever parked half the fleet and survived? How does that even work?
Not trying to insult anyone.
I didn't intend that-at all.
Just trying to be helpful. I know some folks are still on the fence. They shouldn't be.
Trying to share my opinion in a non-insulting way. For a long time, I thought that ASA would be picking up some new flying somewhere-maybe getting the e-170 or something. I definitely don't think that anymore. With all the legacies scraping and clawing to find pilots for their regionals, you'd think ASA would be in a great position-given that they have a surplus of experienced pilots. If the company can't find new flying at this point, it is game over. Regional feed is in a tough spot these days. Most regionals are desperate for pilots. ASA is parking half the fleet. I can't see that as a good thing on any level.
The job market (finally) looks good. Take advantage of it. People should reconsider the term "lateral move" when an airline is closing.
It's only my opinion, but it is a very strong one. I very much think ASA is closing-probably will be around until the delta contract expires-but after that date, I just don't see it.
I'm very sad about the situation-but it's real. This is not a drill. I don't see any way things will improve. I hope things work out-but really... Has any regional ever parked half the fleet and survived? How does that even work?
Not trying to insult anyone.
#235
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 330
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Been a while since I read/heard anything about ASA.
Bums me out to hear what's happened. Worked with some solid people when I was there and I hope you all are going to end up in a good spot, if you haven't already.
Bums me out to hear what's happened. Worked with some solid people when I was there and I hope you all are going to end up in a good spot, if you haven't already.
#236
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Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,001
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From: 6 Train - Panhandler
Here's a bum's speculation. ASA delta side will be shortened until it makes sense to merge with the United side. That will solve any needs on the LXJT side. Can't merge with skyw because merging union-nonunion is a nightmare. But who will pick up the pace for regionals in ATL?
#237
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Joined: Feb 2016
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You know the answer to that question.
Here's a bum's speculation. ASA delta side will be shortened until it makes sense to merge with the United side. That will solve any needs on the LXJT side. Can't merge with skyw because merging union-nonunion is a nightmare. But who will pick up the pace for regionals in ATL?
#238
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Joined: Oct 2016
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Here's a bum's speculation. ASA delta side will be shortened until it makes sense to merge with the United side. That will solve any needs on the LXJT side. Can't merge with skyw because merging union-nonunion is a nightmare. But who will pick up the pace for regionals in ATL?
If there was even a chance of this happening, they would have already started talks for the new contract.
#239
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Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 554
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From: B-767 FO
I certainly hope my posts aren't interpreted that way.
I didn't intend that-at all.
Just trying to be helpful. I know some folks are still on the fence. They shouldn't be.
Trying to share my opinion in a non-insulting way. For a long time, I thought that ASA would be picking up some new flying somewhere-maybe getting the e-170 or something. I definitely don't think that anymore. With all the legacies scraping and clawing to find pilots for their regionals, you'd think ASA would be in a great position-given that they have a surplus of experienced pilots. If the company can't find new flying at this point, it is game over. Regional feed is in a tough spot these days. Most regionals are desperate for pilots. ASA is parking half the fleet. I can't see that as a good thing on any level.
The job market (finally) looks good. Take advantage of it. People should reconsider the term "lateral move" when an airline is closing.
It's only my opinion, but it is a very strong one. I very much think ASA is closing-probably will be around until the delta contract expires-but after that date, I just don't see it.
I'm very sad about the situation-but it's real. This is not a drill. I don't see any way things will improve. I hope things work out-but really... Has any regional ever parked half the fleet and survived? How does that even work?
Not trying to insult anyone.
I didn't intend that-at all.
Just trying to be helpful. I know some folks are still on the fence. They shouldn't be.
Trying to share my opinion in a non-insulting way. For a long time, I thought that ASA would be picking up some new flying somewhere-maybe getting the e-170 or something. I definitely don't think that anymore. With all the legacies scraping and clawing to find pilots for their regionals, you'd think ASA would be in a great position-given that they have a surplus of experienced pilots. If the company can't find new flying at this point, it is game over. Regional feed is in a tough spot these days. Most regionals are desperate for pilots. ASA is parking half the fleet. I can't see that as a good thing on any level.
The job market (finally) looks good. Take advantage of it. People should reconsider the term "lateral move" when an airline is closing.
It's only my opinion, but it is a very strong one. I very much think ASA is closing-probably will be around until the delta contract expires-but after that date, I just don't see it.
I'm very sad about the situation-but it's real. This is not a drill. I don't see any way things will improve. I hope things work out-but really... Has any regional ever parked half the fleet and survived? How does that even work?
Not trying to insult anyone.
#240
Pinnacle parked about 120 CRJ-200's, 36 Q400's, all of the Mesaba & Colgan Saabs, and all of the Colgan 1900's. With all of those aircraft being parked the Seniority list quickly went from nearly 3,000 pilots down to 1,800 in just a few years. Now Endeavor is one of the top Regionals to be at, but that doesn't mean that's how it'll turn out for y'all. Just thought I'd contribute to the question about "Any Regional ever parked half the fleet and survived?"
I believe the 900's went to ASA, and I know several of the CRJ-200's ended up at SkyWest. The Q400's tried to go to Republic but couldn't be staffed and some are still sitting unused in YYZ. Some of the Saabs ended up at Silver, some are sitting in BGR.
Last I saw Endeavor is about 1600 pilots now. The pilots have paid a very heavy price for the recent pay gains.
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