L-ASA (ExpressJet CRJ side)
12-16-2016, 12:45 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I couldn't agree more, unless there is something else in the works that we don't know about yet. One thing that I did notice about this announcement, is that it came out of a SEC filing that Skywest did. It took our company a little bit to announce it afterwards. I'm not saying there is, or giving the company credit, but just stating that there may be something more that's not finalized yet.
I did hear that from G.W., he said they are still strongly considering the FO pay raises and other retention ideas. I've expressed to management over and over again, that the longer they wait, the deeper hole they will need to dig out of. It may come to a point to where the hole starts to fill with water and we can never recover. I personally have given the company up until the end of Feb to make an announcement before I explore making a lateral move, or going somewhere else.
I did hear that from G.W., he said they are still strongly considering the FO pay raises and other retention ideas. I've expressed to management over and over again, that the longer they wait, the deeper hole they will need to dig out of. It may come to a point to where the hole starts to fill with water and we can never recover. I personally have given the company up until the end of Feb to make an announcement before I explore making a lateral move, or going somewhere else.
"give us a year"
Our CPA has been extended and no planes will be parked. (unless we can't staff them)
Our training dept has all the E175 training books and we are ready to launch. (more so on the erj side) Guess who used that program that XJT paid for and set up.
We extended our CPA again as far as you (pilots) know, but we are not telling any of our share holders about it.
12-17-2016, 01:30 AM
#43
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by No Lies
Is it true that pilots were hired between 2007 and 2011 at L asa? Does that mean that the facebook page for XJT is not telling the truth when they say a big jump in upgrade time will occur sometime in the future because they did not hire 3 or 4 years during that time period? Are the upgrade times on the L asa side over 9 years right now? Is it true that you will only be paid 65 hours instead of the standard 75 hours during training?
- I think the 2007-2011 hiring lull was on the L-XJT side. On the L-ASA there was no hiring between 6-2008 and 9-2010. So there should be a about a 2.5 year drop in upgrade time when we get there.
- Yes upgrade times are 9 years right now on L-ASA.
- Yes training pay is 65 hours. Pay used to be $400/week so this is a big improvement.
12-17-2016, 06:59 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Captain
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Xjt will hire right up until they furghlough or begin to downgrade. They know if they they stop hiring they prob will not be able to restart. They need to keep staffing up for a few months until the aircraft begin leaving and this helps with attrition. Why would anyone want to come here? 30 plus airframes leaving, scope basically maxed at delta... It's a net loss of around 350 pilot positions.. Writing is on the wall, best scenario for the super senior guys, in a couple years what little of Xjt is left gets rolled into Skywest once the numbers prevent any real chance of a union drive.
12-17-2016, 06:21 PM
#45
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Posts: 511
Originally Posted by Mach Indicator
- Yes training pay is 65 hours. Pay used to be $400/week so this is a big improvement.
12-17-2016, 08:30 PM
#46
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 177
Originally Posted by Mach Indicator
- I think the 2007-2011 hiring lull was on the L-XJT side. On the L-ASA there was no hiring between 6-2008 and 9-2010. So there should be a about a 2.5 year drop in upgrade time when we get there.
- Yes upgrade times are 9 years right now on L-ASA.
- Yes training pay is 65 hours. Pay used to be $400/week so this is a big improvement.
12-17-2016, 10:32 PM
#47
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: At JBLU
Posts: 337
FWIW a friend of mine was told "big news just around the corner" in 2012
I was told "big news around the corner " in 2014
Get out. Take a lateral move. Fly a G4. Go fly ANYTHING from the left seat that burns jet fuel.
Get out NOW. Seriously. Hit on all cylinders....pull every string, call in every favor you can and JUST GET OUT.
I was told "big news around the corner " in 2014
Get out. Take a lateral move. Fly a G4. Go fly ANYTHING from the left seat that burns jet fuel.
Get out NOW. Seriously. Hit on all cylinders....pull every string, call in every favor you can and JUST GET OUT.
12-19-2016, 06:21 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: CRJ, A320
Posts: 240
Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I couldn't agree more, unless there is something else in the works that we don't know about yet. One thing that I did notice about this announcement, is that it came out of a SEC filing that Skywest did. It took our company a little bit to announce it afterwards. I'm not saying there is, or giving the company credit, but just stating that there may be something more that's not finalized yet.
I did hear that from G.W., he said they are still strongly considering the FO pay raises and other retention ideas. I've expressed to management over and over again, that the longer they wait, the deeper hole they will need to dig out of. It may come to a point to where the hole starts to fill with water and we can never recover. I personally have given the company up until the end of Feb to make an announcement before I explore making a lateral move, or going somewhere else.
I did hear that from G.W., he said they are still strongly considering the FO pay raises and other retention ideas. I've expressed to management over and over again, that the longer they wait, the deeper hole they will need to dig out of. It may come to a point to where the hole starts to fill with water and we can never recover. I personally have given the company up until the end of Feb to make an announcement before I explore making a lateral move, or going somewhere else.
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