My condolences.

That doesn’t negate real data. We know who is at the highest risk of dying from COVID. We have data by age, race, pregnancy status, and specific comorbidities. The numbers do not lie. People die every day of this disease, just like many others. Forcing the vast majority of people who are at risk levels measured in the tenths of a percentage isn’t going to make it more safe for those who freely chose to vaccinate. The vaccination protects you, not the vaccination status of others. I’m not sure why people don’t understand any of that.

 

My condolences.

 

d0 yoRE RaesarCH, br0!

Cause every scientist who isn't moonlighting selling dick pills on talk radio is a stooge of the Commies, or something.

Just further evidence (as if any were required) that pilots are 100% blue collar.

 

Ultimately this is why I took things so cautiously when Covid hit. While most I flew with went around saying, "My body. My choice" I had a wife who'd had a ton of miscarriages, a failed IVF and we'd wasted $50,000 on it all. Thankfully I have a beautiful son who's 15 months old now and a healthy wife. I was wearing masks as soon as the CDC said to do so and was very careful. As soon as everyone was safe following the birth my father in law who was on dialysis wanted to come see his grandson. He didn't have long to live so we were as careful as we could be. He passed a few months ago but thankfully not because of us giving him Covid. My wife lost her grandmother in a nursing home to Covid in July of 2020. My 92 year old grandmother had to go to an ER in January and picked up Covid from the "My body. My choice" people and it almost killed her. My uncle works in an overloaded ER in Pensacola and saved her life with a new treatment. Covid has affected everything for our family. Ultimately I feel lucky that it's "only" killed one family member.

 

All family deaths are tragic irrespective of cause, but as was posted earlier the data is the data even with large swaths of data that include "with COVID," due to the CDC now recognized faulty PCR test and also extremely loose state based reporting guidelines.

But to live one's life thinking repurposed underwear over one's face is going protect others, or yourself, from an airborne respiratory virus is ludicrous and goes against 100 years of established infectious disease data. And to reiterate... repeat after me... THE VACCINE DOES NOT PREVENT TRANSMISSION, even Herr Fuaci and CDC Director Walensky have admitted on multiple occasions.

So while the death or illness of a family member is always tragic and personal, it is of no use as a cudgel to shame others for making choices that have nothing to do with said tragedy.



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I didn't share that personal story as a "cudgel to shame others for making choices......." The point, which a few of you missed completely, was that the data points you dismiss as irrelevant actually represent real people dealing with real hardships. To further drive home your missing of the point you engage in false equivalencies and mouthing "All family deaths are tragic irrespective of cause", sigh.


But your vaccine resistance isn't about bad data, vaccine efficacy, faulty tests, or a misunderstanding of mRNA. It is about your need to put yourself before anything and everyone. #MEFIRST. You denigrate and defame decent people who's primary concern is the health and safety of others, because it makes you feel some sense of contrarian enlightenment. You can see the truth and the rest of us are all just uninformed lemmings unable to discern fact from fiction. That makes you feel good. It makes you feel more superior. Because all of existence is there to either bolster you or take something from you. Every situation is either flattery or threat. Every person you encounter is either Friend or Foe.


In this binary world, No reasoned argument will have any impact. No data points are convincing.


If you don't want to get vaccinated no one is gonna force you to. But like it tell my kids free will is a MF and that choice may limit others.

 

"If you don't want to get vaccinated no one is gonna force you to". If you work for the USPS, or are a congressional staffer maybe but there is enormous pressure if you are a working stiff. Will the court cases be resolved prior to you losing your job? Can those in your family who are working afford to lose their jobs?

As for the vaccines, perhaps the posters on this thread can describe their efforts running data reports from the VAERS database (hint, anyone can do it). And perhaps the posters can describe the first use of mRNA vaccine in a human (non human rated to boot!), the first "widespread use of mRNA vaccine in humans (say over 25K people)" and the where and what disease and when. And all the subsequent uses of mRNA vaccines. Please describe what cellular machinery is used in mRNA vaccines, upper vs lower respiratory immune response, current data on mRNA cardiac issues post vaccination, and, of course, the difference between efficacy vs effectiveness of vaccines. Please do the same for adeno vector vaccines. As for statistics and loss of family members, there is an old saying in flight safety, "statistics are great until you are the statistic". Airplanes crash. FDX has had quite a few. Fortunately, only two fatalities that I am aware of. For that reason alone, everyone one of you should stop flying airplanes because your choice to continue to do so just might kill someone else.

 

I live in a small town, and I'm a member of a small-town church. Within my church of about 400 parishioners, three have been added to our prayer list since last week. All three are on ventilators with covid and are not expected to survive. All three were fully vaccinated. The families volunteered the vaccination status as if it was to justify that they did what was right. That's sad in itself. I'm not sure of any other details, but I would bet they have underlying conditions. There are no others on our list in such dire situations with covid. More and more info is coming to light that is only solidifying my stance. When you are called, it does not matter whether you wear a mask, get a jab, or whatever. Mr. Franklin said it well, death and taxes my friends.

 

This is the point. We live in a country with a governing document that protects people’s natural freedoms. And with that comes personal responsibility. But nonetheless, we are just human, not angels. We could live in a society which doesn’t put any value to natural given freedoms. But I think we would be dealing with a lot worse things than arguing about forcing people to be vaccinated, assuming we would be allowed to argue publicly.

In this particular case, the vaccination is the answer to those who don’t vaccinate. The vaccine will give you as much protection possible against those who won’t. There is no need to sacrifice, even just a little, the freedoms we enjoy to force or coerce people into injecting themselves against their will when there is a viable alternative for a disease that currently kills 0.2 percent of all people in the US.

PS. There are reports of miscarriages from the vaccine in VAERS.

 

You wrote.... "But your vaccine resistance isn't about bad data, vaccine efficacy, faulty tests, or a misunderstanding of mRNA. It is about your need to put yourself before anything and everyone. #MEFIRST"


Okay, let's keep this simple. What does me taking this shot have to do with anyone else considering it doesn't stop me from transmitting the disease to others?

It's a simple question.

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