My neighbor who works in the ER as a RN had 3 people turn into lizards last week and 4 people turn into giraffes. The evil media doesn't report this stuff! Unfortunately the media didn't report the tracking portions of the vaccine and now I have an Apple Device on me that tracks everywhere I go. I'm tired of this Communism!

 

The problem you have is that half us will back the company WHEN they require this. For starters I don't want to pay your insurance costs. I don't want to cover your sick calls. I don't want you giving me a breakthrough infections that I give to my daughter who's sits out school for two weeks.

 

I do think that 99.8% is a massive number. That’s a lot of people (more than about 332,000,000) in the leaf 18 months that haven’t died of and or with COVID.

Many things kill thousands of Americans everyday. And many of those things can be prevented, ie senseless. But we don’t force people to eat a certain diet, have a certain exercise regiment, keep them from driving, etc etc etc. If we did, we could save a whole lot more lives than forcing people to get injected.

The point is that we live in a free country, or at least I’d like to hope we still do. If you want to be protected from COVID by those who don’t vaccinate, it’s simple, get the vaccination. I don’t think we should coerce people to get injected for something that vast overwhelming majority of people (even more so for healthy or people under 70), when people can protect themselves by freely choosing to vaccinate.

You don’t need others to vaccinate to protect yourself. You only need vaccinate yourself. So why force it?

There is a system for self reporting called VAERS. But you are right, majority of media doesn’t cover it.

As for exposure notification on iOS, the federal government hasn’t mandated it. If they did, I wouldn’t say it’s communism. I’d say it’s authoritarianism.

We already pay for each other’s insurance premiums cost. That’s part of how group insurance works. And despite testing, doctor visits, medications, complications, hospitalizations, etc, the premiums are going down. We must collectively be part of the population that isn’t affected as severely from covid as those who are, over 65, and immuno-compromised, or those with specific comorbidities, most of which would medically ground us.

Covering for sick calls is one this that reserve is for. Is that what you are referring to? The ability to call in sick is a contractual and regulatory right. No way around that in whatever context we are discussing.

And what does breakthrough infections have to do with forcing people to be injected? If you are vaccinated, you are protected as much as you can be, regardless of anyone else’s vaccination status.

 

My response was satirically pointing out that second hand anecdotal stories are rather pointless. Just trying to be funny in what might be the most ridiculous thread on APC (which is quite a feat). I remember being in graduate school and using anecdotal stories in one of my first papers in an attempt to advance my argument…it earned me quite a hole it took the rest of the semester for me to dig out of. Peer reviewed double blind studies carry more weight. I don’t talk to 13 year olds so I can’t comment on your 13 year old discussions comment.

Answer: I’m not sure if the world is overpopulated or not (I’m not a liberal so I don’t spend a lot of time discussing such wacky suggestions). I’m willing to take a firm stance on helping people stay alive if we can and I don’t care who knows it.

 

Lizards? Giraffes? And here I though we were talking about people turning into pumpkins.

 

1. So I don't pay your insurance costs that can be avoided with a simple shot. The cost of insurance is going to sky rocket over this and we need different risk pools. Delta understands this. If my rates are around the same for next year then I don't care but if they go up $1000 a month to reflect your risk then I do care. In that case you should pay $2000 extra a month and I should pay close to my current rates.
2. So I don't have to do your work when you're sick.

 

My neighbor had his DNA changed and turned into a frog. There's a war on for your mind!!!

 

Sounds good. That is, so long as we also make sure that anyone who smokes pays $4000/month, anyone overweight pays $5000/month, and anyone who ever rides a motorcycle pays $6000/month. I think I might like this wonderful new authoritarian world we're creating!

 

As soon as there's a shot that prevents those things, I agree. Except for the motorcycles - that can apply now if you're not wearing a helmet.

 

All of those things are easily preventable without a shot so I don't see your point. We should definitely incorporate this into our health care premiums!