Vaccine Stance
09-22-2021 | 09:16 AM
#331
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You wrote.... "But your vaccine resistance isn't about bad data, vaccine efficacy, faulty tests, or a misunderstanding of mRNA. It is about your need to put yourself before anything and everyone. #MEFIRST"
Okay, let's keep this simple. What does me taking this shot have to do with anyone else considering it doesn't stop me from transmitting the disease to others?
It's a simple question.
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Okay, let's keep this simple. What does me taking this shot have to do with anyone else considering it doesn't stop me from transmitting the disease to others?
It's a simple question.
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Ooh let me guess…. Nothing!!!
09-22-2021 | 10:20 AM
#332
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From: Scarebus Captain
This is the point. We live in a country with a governing document that protects people’s natural freedoms. And with that comes personal responsibility. But nonetheless, we are just human, not angels. We could live in a society which doesn’t put any value to natural given freedoms. But I think we would be dealing with a lot worse things than arguing about forcing people to be vaccinated, assuming we would be allowed to argue publicly.
In this particular case, the vaccination is the answer to those who don’t vaccinate. The vaccine will give you as much protection possible against those who won’t. There is no need to sacrifice, even just a little, the freedoms we enjoy to force or coerce people into injecting themselves against their will when there is a viable alternative for a disease that currently kills 0.2 percent of all people in the US.
PS. There are reports of miscarriages from the vaccine in VAERS.
In this particular case, the vaccination is the answer to those who don’t vaccinate. The vaccine will give you as much protection possible against those who won’t. There is no need to sacrifice, even just a little, the freedoms we enjoy to force or coerce people into injecting themselves against their will when there is a viable alternative for a disease that currently kills 0.2 percent of all people in the US.
PS. There are reports of miscarriages from the vaccine in VAERS.
09-22-2021 | 11:08 AM
#333
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank;[url=tel:3298688
3298688[/url]]My wife’s friend is a labor and delivery nurse and two Sundays ago they had 5 stillborn babies. All to vaccinated mothers. In one day and just at her hospital. You won’t read about that in the news.
09-22-2021 | 11:58 AM
#334
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It is affecting drivers too. My wife’s sisters ex boyfriends neighbors brothers dad lives in Iceland and he told me that recently there were 11 traffic accidents and all of the drivers involved were vaccinated there as well. It’s time the media starts doing their job and reporting this stuff!
Question. If world is overpopulated (almost all liberals agree with that) why fight a natural die off so hard?
09-22-2021 | 11:59 AM
#335
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So True!!! 100%!!!
They wouldn’t report that the amount of birth complications are similar amongst vaccinated people as they were before covid even existed! The humanity of it all!!
09-22-2021 | 12:13 PM
#336
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From: FedEx
They are still using the entire 827 women (that reported completed pregnancy) as the denominator for total women when they calculate their spontaneous abortion rates... Their definition of spontaneous abortion is, "fetal death before 20 weeks."
It will be interesting in further studies when they disclose a denominator.
Given the measures taken to reduce risk in pregnancy, such as not eating raw fish or deli meat, it seems nuts to take a new mRNA treatment with no long term safety information, especially when the known risk from COVID is extremely low for this age cohort.
Original data: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104983
Article summary(corrected):
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMe2107070
Correction to article summary:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMx210017
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09-22-2021 | 01:29 PM
#337
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I guess I don't see what your post is attempting to illustrate when the article from NEMJ states that the rates of complications in the 35,691 women that participated in the study are the same/similar as years before covid? I DO however agree with with your avoiding deli meats and fish statement as an example of something that is relatively low risk in comparison with a new vaccine. Although, that being said, so far the numbers don't seem to show increased risk with the vaccine. This pregnancy and vaccine data could be something similar to the dying from or with covid debate. Time will tell, if we are not all zombies before then.
09-22-2021 | 01:53 PM
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As shown by the long term agreement with Atlas to outsource our jobs, the company will do whatever they want, whenever they want, unless we stand up as a unified group against them. If they want to require all employees get vaccinated then they will. If they want you to work more for less then they’ll find a way to make that happen too. They are asking for contract concessions during negotiations which is an insult after a year and a half of record profits when pilots were bending over backwards to help the company and getting quarantined in hotels all over the world. They said they’d evacuate pilots out of foreign countries and pretty quickly stopped following that agreement. Vaccines are coming as are fewer FedEx pilot jobs.
09-22-2021 | 02:48 PM
#339
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As shown by the long term agreement with Atlas to outsource our jobs, the company will do whatever they want, whenever they want, unless we stand up as a unified group against them. If they want to require all employees get vaccinated then they will. If they want you to work more for less then they’ll find a way to make that happen too. They are asking for contract concessions during negotiations which is an insult after a year and a half of record profits when pilots were bending over backwards to help the company and getting quarantined in hotels all over the world. They said they’d evacuate pilots out of foreign countries and pretty quickly stopped following that agreement. Vaccines are coming as are fewer FedEx pilot jobs.
09-22-2021 | 03:09 PM
#340
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This is the point. We live in a country with a governing document that protects people’s natural freedoms. And with that comes personal responsibility. But nonetheless, we are just human, not angels. We could live in a society which doesn’t put any value to natural given freedoms. But I think we would be dealing with a lot worse things than arguing about forcing people to be vaccinated, assuming we would be allowed to argue publicly.
In this particular case, the vaccination is the answer to those who don’t vaccinate. The vaccine will give you as much protection possible against those who won’t. There is no need to sacrifice, even just a little, the freedoms we enjoy to force or coerce people into injecting themselves against their will when there is a viable alternative for a disease that currently kills 0.2 percent of all people in the US.
PS. There are reports of miscarriages from the vaccine in VAERS.
In this particular case, the vaccination is the answer to those who don’t vaccinate. The vaccine will give you as much protection possible against those who won’t. There is no need to sacrifice, even just a little, the freedoms we enjoy to force or coerce people into injecting themselves against their will when there is a viable alternative for a disease that currently kills 0.2 percent of all people in the US.
PS. There are reports of miscarriages from the vaccine in VAERS.
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