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Old 05-27-2012 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Agree on all, although I'd feel a bit dirty getting the job soley because I was willing to take a deal guys like 2dogs wouldn't that do work there, especially after those guys got booted.
First of all, if you got the job, it certainly wouldn't be because guys like 2dogs didn't want to work there. After all, he's already on the property and as such has options that someone looking to get in doesn't have. You would be offered the job because you not only met the company requirements, but that you passed all hiring tests, did good enough in the simulator and impressed the guys you met along the way enough to be offered the job. As for guys getting booted, well, we'll have to just wait and see what the final outcome is, but IF you were offered the job, and IF you accepted it, you could at least go over there, knowing that it is for sure a high visibility base, and being forewarned is being forearmed.

On another aspect of FedEx life, there are plenty of guys who, for whatever reason, won't/can't/don't upgrade to Captain. Would that mean that you'd feel "dirty" taking an early upgrade? Thought not.

Regardless, good luck in your quest.

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Old 05-27-2012 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Agree on all, although I'd feel a bit dirty getting the job soley because I was willing to take a deal guys like 2dogs wouldn't that do work there, especially after those guys got booted.
Would you feel dirty going to the right seat of the MD11 or A300 or rumored 777 FO seat in MEM? Apparently they can't fill those seats either and New hires are going there.

If you get an offer.....I wouldn't worry about feeling dirty
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Old 05-27-2012 | 02:56 PM
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There's two perspectives: the one where you have a great job, and the one where you don't.

If you're in the second category, don't take much advice from anyone in the first category.

If you're looking for a job, and there ain't a picket line in front of the place, go for it. Just read all the threads about the HKG situation. The company is going postal over guys not meeting the residency requirements over there. you can either a) not take the housing allowance and just make it work somehow, or b) go over there understanding that you AND your spouse cannot go home - I'd say not at all, until the company publicizes what criteria they are using to punish people.

You MIGHT could use the IRS criteria and keep your US trips to less than a month, but that has in no way been affirmed by the company or ALPA......
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Old 05-27-2012 | 03:44 PM
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Good advice Huck, +1....

Originally Posted by Huck
There's two perspectives: the one where you have a great job, and the one where you don't.

If you're in the second category, don't take much advice from anyone in the first category.

If you're looking for a job, and there ain't a picket line in front of the place, go for it. Just read all the threads about the HKG situation. The company is going postal over guys not meeting the residency requirements over there. you can either a) not take the housing allowance and just make it work somehow, or b) go over there understanding that you AND your spouse cannot go home - I'd say not at all, until the company publicizes what criteria they are using to punish people.

You MIGHT could use the IRS criteria and keep your US trips to less than a month, but that has in no way been affirmed by the company or ALPA......
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Old 05-27-2012 | 10:59 PM
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And let's also not forget the difference in 1st year probation pay to what nonprobation pilots earn. HKG is a beautiful city with lots to (incredibly poor air quality notwithstanding...), but it is also a fairly expensive city when assessed for housing. You can survive, I'm fairly sure, on probation pay, but it'll be at a somewhat lower relative level of comfort (how does 800-900 sq ft sound?).

A job is a job, however, so that is a consideration, but your survival instincts and ability to adapt would definitely be called into use.
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Old 05-29-2012 | 08:39 PM
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Just curious about a couple things....first I see on APC's FedEx profile page 87 757-200s to be delivered by 2016. Are these refurbished aircraft? The 757 production line is closed down, right? Also, are the aircraft orders growth aircraft or replacements 1 for 1 with boneyard aircraft? Thanks
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Old 05-29-2012 | 09:21 PM
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All of the 757s are conversions and while not exactly 1:1, most are replacing older aircraft.
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Old 05-29-2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Would you feel dirty going to the right seat of the MD11 or A300 or rumored 777 FO seat in MEM? Apparently they can't fill those seats either and New hires are going there.

If you get an offer.....I wouldn't worry about feeling dirty
I guess my point was, playing that card of "hey I'll go if you'll hire me" if the current guys wouldn't because they're trying to fix a situation.
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Old 06-02-2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
If you're looking for a job, and there ain't a picket line in front of the place, go for it. Just read all the threads about the HKG situation. The company is going postal over guys not meeting the residency requirements over there. you can either a) not take the housing allowance and just make it work somehow, or b) go over there understanding that you AND your spouse cannot go home
So going as a Class B bachelor isn't an issue as long as you don't take the stipend, right? Momma is in grad school for the next 2 years and can't move.
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Old 06-02-2012 | 11:02 AM
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So going as a Class B bachelor isn't an issue as long as you don't take the stipend, right? Momma is in grad school for the next 2 years and can't move.
That's one way to deal with a HKG assignment. Kind of expensive, though, and not conducive to getting good rest before and between trips. Not that the company gives a rat's a$$ about that, apparently.

If said Class B bachelor happens to reside in one of the 20 states that ban discrimination in employment compensation and bennies based on marital status, said pilot has a cause of action against FDX if said pilot can't take the HA when identical new hires who don't have a marriage license can get this extra $4500/mo, plus 1000# shipment of household goods. Probably not advisable to mention this at the interview. Of course if you did, and that was the only reason FDX didn't hire you (challenging to prove), that in itself would be marital status discrimination. Which, by the way, is against the company's own policy, or so they'd like their shareholders to think.
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