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#1211
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,927

Understood. Just mentioned it so pilots could understand how it was possible. We have quite a few pilots that don’t know this.
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#1212
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Airbus F/O
Posts: 331

I see that tow Vegas captains were involuntary displaced, how can that happened? The base did not shrink, so how could someone senior get displaced into Vegas and that trigger a displacement out of people from Vegas?
#1213
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 470

If a person gets bumped from a domicile, he can use his seniority to bid to another domicile that his seniority can hold. A vacancy in the domicile is not required. If it so happens that the Company is not simultaneously expanding the domicile, somebody’s going to be displaced from domicile #2.
Taking it to the next level, if the folks displaced from LAS are senior enough to bump the junior guy out of PHL and the Company isn’t expanding PHL, a couple of PHL pilots could be displaced to MIA (or whatever their seniority can hold).
I believe ALPA refers to this system (honoring seniority) as a “bump and flush” system of displacements.
Surely you don’t think a 13 year guy from Denver should *have* to go to MIA when people almost a decade junior to him are holding LAS.
#1214
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 461
#1215
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Airbus F/O
Posts: 331

Is this a rhetorical question? As in: you know the answer, but you don’t like it?
If a person gets bumped from a domicile, he can use his seniority to bid to another domicile that his seniority can hold. A vacancy in the domicile is not required. If it so happens that the Company is not simultaneously expanding the domicile, somebody’s going to be displaced from domicile #2.
Taking it to the next level, if the folks displaced from LAS are senior enough to bump the junior guy out of PHL and the Company isn’t expanding PHL, a couple of PHL pilots could be displaced to MIA (or whatever their seniority can hold).
I believe ALPA refers to this system (honoring seniority) as a “bump and flush” system of displacements.
Surely you don’t think a 13 year guy from Denver should *have* to go to MIA when people almost a decade junior to him are holding LAS.
If a person gets bumped from a domicile, he can use his seniority to bid to another domicile that his seniority can hold. A vacancy in the domicile is not required. If it so happens that the Company is not simultaneously expanding the domicile, somebody’s going to be displaced from domicile #2.
Taking it to the next level, if the folks displaced from LAS are senior enough to bump the junior guy out of PHL and the Company isn’t expanding PHL, a couple of PHL pilots could be displaced to MIA (or whatever their seniority can hold).
I believe ALPA refers to this system (honoring seniority) as a “bump and flush” system of displacements.
Surely you don’t think a 13 year guy from Denver should *have* to go to MIA when people almost a decade junior to him are holding LAS.
#1216

Definitely not a rhetorical question, but an honest. I didn’t think you could get bid out of your base, unless the base shrunk. I thought if involuntary displaced it would find you a home in order of your bid, but where an opening was available not force people out of their base. Now I know it works this way.
#1217
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 5

Hey everyone, I’ll have an April class date with Frontier. Not sure if the exact date yet. Pretty excited from what I’ve been reading! Just wondering if anyone knows what past trainees have been doing for lodging while there? I’ve been looking at air bnbs and hotels a little bit. I understand a list gets sent out before class of everyone’s name and email, but I wanted to start looking now. Thanks!
#1218
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 28

Hey everyone, I’ll have an April class date with Frontier. Not sure if the exact date yet. Pretty excited from what I’ve been reading! Just wondering if anyone knows what past trainees have been doing for lodging while there? I’ve been looking at air bnbs and hotels a little bit. I understand a list gets sent out before class of everyone’s name and email, but I wanted to start looking now. Thanks!
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