Hiring / training
#2241
Who really cares if management or Indigo are concerned. The pilots are concerned. And the more the pilots are concerned, the more people will bail, the less people wlll show up, and this place will be shrinking faster than management can stop it. And in my opinion, raising first year pay isn’t going to even begin to solve the problem. Attrition is coming from everywhere….not just probationary pilots.
I do agree with you though that it will take more than raising first year pay. The entire slope of our pay scale needs to be readjusted. Let’s just hope that the senior papas and mamas on the 12 year line realize that their own self preservation in the future may require them to not eat their young and might mean not getting as much on their end so people below them can have more.
That also brings me to this… contract negotiations are right around the corner. Do you not think that the company will use the fear of shrinkage (I WAS IN THE POOL!) to their advantage to get the pilot group to vote “yes”? You need to relax. If you’re this shaken by *this*, you are about to be reduced to a pile of useless goo in the corner when negotiations start.
#2242
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,394
that is why you know he is Management. The rest of us actually fly the line and see all the worts and *****. I do enjoy F9 though, even with the blemishes. Some days are frustrating, but if you commute enough you learn every place has its problems. Just seems like ours should have easy fixes and you are left wondering why they do not get fixed.
I've waited 3+ hours to get a gate after landing multiple times here. And guess what? I got paid a bunch of money to look at my phone, chat with my coworkers and then I went home and enjoyed my life. And if you don't think that other airlines have their problems too.... you're just clueless.
Being a pilot is a great job, if you can keep a good attitude. If you have a crap attitude here, you'll have a crap attitude wrapped in a different uniform at United or Delta. (I'm not speaking directly to you petpipai, just in general to all the people who love to b*tch)
Every airline has problems. Take a look at how JetBlue handled this blizzard in the Northeast. They left thousands of people stranded at JFK. Looked like a war zone. They took a ton of flak on social media. People were ****ed! And then guess what happened? The pilots got to go on their days off, got paid on pay day, got money dumped into their 401k and got to keep their health insurance. Life goes on.
And again, as for our little attrition problem: its just the leverage we need to get a better contract in the next round! As a pilot group, we want to see some attrition! If we have no attrition, what leverage would we have to get pay raises in the next round?? Plus, I'll gladly take some premium trips in the meantime. I haven't had a single premium trip alert in a week, so our staffing issues must not be that bad! Yet. But bring it on.
Let's let the supply and demand for pilots work in our favor
#2243
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 313
#2244
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
The lack of pilots in class has more to do with the lack of hiring resources and recognition that there was a problem from the decision makers than anything else at this point. Hopefully now that they're starting to refill the hiring resources, things will get better. Quite a bit more work to be done on this front though.
#2247
Things are fine here....
We dont need as many pilots as what people think....
Premium time will solve it all...
It will help us in negotiations because the company will have to make a deal quick...
First year pay and hotels will solve the problem...
Did I cover the bulk of them?
#2250
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 491
The lack of pilots in class has more to do with the lack of hiring resources and recognition that there was a problem from the decision makers than anything else at this point. Hopefully now that they're starting to refill the hiring resources, things will get better. Quite a bit more work to be done on this front though.
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