Hiring / training
02-05-2023, 03:33 PM
#3581
Almost there
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,096
Originally Posted by saltbae
first year is $90+ at the regionals … same as Frontier, after year 1 all of them bring you up to captain pay once you hit 750-850 hours which is ~$150/hour at all the regionals. Frontier you get your modest pay raise each year until you upgrade which is over 3 years right now
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
02-05-2023, 05:02 PM
#3582
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
Originally Posted by saltbae
first year is $90+ at the regionals … same as Frontier, after year 1 all of them bring you up to captain pay once you hit 750-850 hours which is ~$150/hour at all the regionals. Frontier you get your modest pay raise each year until you upgrade which is over 3 years right now
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
02-05-2023, 05:31 PM
#3583
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I only found the AA wholly own carriers doing the captain pay at 750 hours thing. None of Skywest, Republic, Mesa or Endeavor are doing that as far as I could see from their recruitment pages. There are bonus programs at both the regionals and Frontier, but they're probably better at the regionals. You're missing the 15% DC, vacation credit, as well as the stuff the above poster mentioned. Upgrade will likely drop to 2 years here in about 2-3 months.
DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules
This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.
line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please
02-05-2023, 05:33 PM
#3584
I Pass the Butter
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 555
Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I only found the AA wholly own carriers doing the captain pay at 750 hours thing. None of Skywest, Republic, Mesa or Endeavor are doing that as far as I could see from their recruitment pages. There are bonus programs at both the regionals and Frontier, but they're probably better at the regionals. You're missing the 15% DC, vacation credit, as well as the stuff the above poster mentioned. Upgrade will likely drop to 2 years here in about 2-3 months.
Anyway I don’t personally know anyone that took it. I sure didn’t. The fact they had to threaten junior man for nearly a year and then actually do it, shows their pay and bonuses and upgrade incentives were enough. And now they’re metering hiring (ironic).
02-05-2023, 05:35 PM
#3585
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 217
Originally Posted by saltbae
Republic gives captain pay at 850 hours now. Don’t keep up with Mesa or the others as much.
DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules
This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.
line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please
DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules
This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.
line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please
02-05-2023, 05:38 PM
#3586
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
Originally Posted by saltbae
Republic gives captain pay at 850 hours now. Don’t keep up with Mesa or the others as much.
DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules
This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.
line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please
DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules
This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.
line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please
02-05-2023, 05:43 PM
#3587
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
Okay, great. Stay at your regional flying CRJs 4 legs a day. We don’t care.
SNJ syndrome for riddle rats, with no flight benefits. Nice
02-05-2023, 05:45 PM
#3588
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Joined APC: May 2008
Position: F9 FO
Posts: 370
This dude really pitching regionals as equivalent or better than F9? GTFOH.
I'm pretty sad/angry at the state of affairs at F9, but suggesting that it's even a contest is laughable. This dude is an rj recruiter or something.
I'm pretty sad/angry at the state of affairs at F9, but suggesting that it's even a contest is laughable. This dude is an rj recruiter or something.
02-05-2023, 05:48 PM
#3589
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 217
Originally Posted by saltbae
2-3 legs a day, 4 at worst.. beats the hell out of doing red eyes 💀
SNJ syndrome for riddle rats, with no flight benefits. Nice
SNJ syndrome for riddle rats, with no flight benefits. Nice
02-05-2023, 05:49 PM
#3590
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by FlyingR6
This dude really pitching regionals as equivalent or better than F9? GTFOH.
I'm pretty sad/angry at the state of affairs at F9, but suggesting that it's even a contest is laughable. This dude is an rj recruiter or something.
I'm pretty sad/angry at the state of affairs at F9, but suggesting that it's even a contest is laughable. This dude is an rj recruiter or something.
the people I’ve talked to over there are like warm about Frontier.. I’m trying to justify applying but can’t since I don’t plan on being there long since a legacy is the goal. Would make a lot less $$ going there than staying
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