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02-05-2023, 11:05 AM
#3571
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Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 138
Originally Posted by saltbae
I don’t get why people are going to Frontier when they don’t have non-rev benefits. You have to Zed anywhere. All those people with unlimited flights jump you in order to get a seat in the back. What’s the big appeal to go to frontier now? Pay is worse than the regionals
I’m half serious actually.
02-05-2023, 12:08 PM
#3572
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,093
Originally Posted by saltbae
I don’t get why people are going to Frontier when they don’t have non-rev benefits. You have to Zed anywhere. All those people with unlimited flights jump you in order to get a seat in the back. What’s the big appeal to go to frontier now? Pay is worse than the regionals
-a growing company with a massive growth plan
-one of top 5 newest fleets in the world
-good crews
-soon to be less than 2 year upgrade
-never used non rev benefits because why? I make enough to buy a ticket with my pay that is…
-…better than regionals
-a new contract on the horizon that will further increase the pay above regionals
- as earthbound just mentioned we are basically a guaranteed interview with all legacies
Just how little do you think F9 pilots make? Just trying to gauge how uninformed you truly are.
02-05-2023, 12:26 PM
#3573
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: Joystick Operator
Posts: 784
Originally Posted by Stayontarget
-Base locations
-a growing company with a massive growth plan
-one of top 5 newest fleets in the world
-good crews
-soon to be less than 2 year upgrade
-never used non rev benefits because why? I make enough to buy a ticket with my pay that is…
-…better than regionals
-a new contract on the horizon that will further increase the pay above regionals
- as earthbound just mentioned we are basically a guaranteed interview with all legacies
Just how little do you think F9 pilots make? Just trying to gauge how uninformed you truly are.
-a growing company with a massive growth plan
-one of top 5 newest fleets in the world
-good crews
-soon to be less than 2 year upgrade
-never used non rev benefits because why? I make enough to buy a ticket with my pay that is…
-…better than regionals
-a new contract on the horizon that will further increase the pay above regionals
- as earthbound just mentioned we are basically a guaranteed interview with all legacies
Just how little do you think F9 pilots make? Just trying to gauge how uninformed you truly are.
I love when people compare us to regionals.... I have flown with a lot of CAs who haven't made less than 300k a year after upgrading. Home most nights, 16+ days off. I am not too sure where the whole, flying an RJ with mostly 3-4 day trips, 4-5 leg days a week making 180/hr as a CA is better.
02-05-2023, 01:23 PM
#3574
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,093
Originally Posted by spooldup
I love when people compare us to regionals.... I have flown with a lot of CAs who haven't made less than 300k a year after upgrading. Home most nights, 16+ days off. I am not too sure where the whole, flying an RJ with mostly 3-4 day trips, 4-5 leg days a week making 180/hr as a CA is better.
02-05-2023, 02:17 PM
#3575
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by Stayontarget
-Base locations
-a growing company with a massive growth plan
-one of top 5 newest fleets in the world
-good crews
-soon to be less than 2 year upgrade
-never used non rev benefits because why? I make enough to buy a ticket with my pay that is…
-…better than regionals
-a new contract on the horizon that will further increase the pay above regionals
- as earthbound just mentioned we are basically a guaranteed interview with all legacies
Just how little do you think F9 pilots make? Just trying to gauge how uninformed you truly are.
-a growing company with a massive growth plan
-one of top 5 newest fleets in the world
-good crews
-soon to be less than 2 year upgrade
-never used non rev benefits because why? I make enough to buy a ticket with my pay that is…
-…better than regionals
-a new contract on the horizon that will further increase the pay above regionals
- as earthbound just mentioned we are basically a guaranteed interview with all legacies
Just how little do you think F9 pilots make? Just trying to gauge how uninformed you truly are.
-are you buying business class tickets overseas? Huge reason to be in this industry is for the benefits
- year 1-2 FO’s are making $150/hour+ at regionals, plus all the bonuses.. an additional $45K
- sooo you wouldn’t go to Delta cause they have the oldest fleet? SNJ syndrome is real
- guaranteed path to UA, Delta, or AA as a plan B.. and being a captain at a regional is a guaranteed interview at a major? Same as Frontier..
- the only reason I see to go to Frontier is for base location and if you can’t get to a major from your regional
- Atlas year 3 FO’s clearing 30K/month too flying a 747 all over the world
02-05-2023, 03:10 PM
#3577
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
LOL
I stopped reading here. Be a little more subtle next time.
I stopped reading here. Be a little more subtle next time.
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
02-05-2023, 03:27 PM
#3579
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: Joystick Operator
Posts: 784
Originally Posted by saltbae
first year is $90+ at the regionals … same as Frontier, after year 1 all of them bring you up to captain pay once you hit 750-850 hours which is ~$150/hour at all the regionals. Frontier you get your modest pay raise each year until you upgrade which is over 3 years right now
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
The only pros I see for frontier are living in base in FL and upgrading to captain in 3 years, but honestly anyone whose under 40 is going to take the job at a Legacy when they call you, likely in less than 3 years
Yeah, different places have different pros and cons.
You know why you get brought to CA pay so quick? Cause they are bleeding captains and are junior manning FOs into upgrade.
02-05-2023, 03:32 PM
#3580
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by spooldup
You just compared Atlas where you are gone A TON, to F9 where you are home a lot.
Yeah, different places have different pros and cons.
You know why you get brought to CA pay so quick? Cause they are bleeding captains and are junior manning FOs into upgrade.
Yeah, different places have different pros and cons.
You know why you get brought to CA pay so quick? Cause they are bleeding captains and are junior manning FOs into upgrade.
got it though, have to live in base and you are home a lot in exchange for that. That’s the big draw… just genuinely confused what the big reason to go to Frontier is now with regionals paying more and offering more in terms of benefits and a plan B to flow
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