Yeah, times were different back in 2017/2018 for sure. I may have failed in my effort, but the point I was trying to make is that very little brain power should be spent complaining about pilots picking up flying during negotiations. Just as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, there will always be a plentiful supply of pilots -- driven solely by selfish greed -- who do it before, during and after negotiations. IMO, there are more important fish to fry.

 

Last minute in nature.. sure. But different than picking up OT? They’d just staff more reserves.. still cheaper than a pay raise. If it’s a principle you were standing on I’m not sure how the two would be different except that premium pays more

 

Thanks. There used to be a lot of that in the DNA of the FFT MEC (and FAPA before that). Based on the dysfunction and what transpired earlier this week within the FFT MEC, it sadly appears that much has changed in the past few years and the lunatics have now taken over the asylum.

 

Your boys have alot of really bad ideas imo. The company is losing money so let’s reduce the pressure/increase workload and remove a negotiator? Oh and have an even number of them. What’s next their losing money so we should cut a break on our ask?
next let’s put an arbitrary cap on no pilots in the company except those involved in negotiations with the threat of recall for disagreements hanging over peoples heads. I’m sure that’s going to attract quality individuals. All this right in the middle of mediation. Real good timing.

I should have really highlighted the company is losing money so let’s cut them a break part. Management now knows they have sympathetic members to a crying poor strategy they can now play at any time. These guys have done alot of damage already.

 

Agreed. Most definitely.

 

I think we should all be very concerned with what is happening with the LECs. Call your reps, have a chat and decide what you want to do.

The expression about changing horse mid-race comes to mind. I think the actions of the LEC reps for 165 and 169 are going to send us back to the start of negotiations with the NMB and cost us all a lot of money.

 

This happened to some extent last round to a lesser degree and it didn’t become public.

In an attempt to save $ in negotiations Alpa decided to save costs on hotel rooms by replacing two chi grievance members with a den Pilot. These two chi pilots were putting in 30-40 hrs of work a week mostly on days off because there was very little fpl to go around. This den pilot wasted a bunch of time arguing with legal (Yale law school grad), wanting to employ a new software grievance tracking system, (after everyone had been trained on Alpa’s system). It goes on and on the time this guy wasted. He didn’t do anything grievance related and didn’t know the contact pretty much at all.

I would get calls from reps. What’s up with this guy? I would tell them bring back the chi members and drop half their schedule if necessity because this guy is going to cost the group millions because you wanted to save a few hundred a month in hotel costs. That eventually happened. The guy was removed.

This feels a bit similar but much worse. And it should have never went public.

 

It doesn't sound settled. Also I think i have a right to know if 1-3 of the MEC is in real danger of a recall based on four guys.

 

Depends on what you mean by "public."

If you mean APC and the rest of the world, then i agree. If you mean an internal communication from the MEC to the pilots, then I disagree. This is our union - sh!t like that needs to be known IMO.

 

Agreed and what’s the plan after. Who is replacing him? Credit caps and only two negotiators is part of that plan and it’s a really bad one imo.