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Old 10-18-2016 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Based on what I'm reading here, if you were at a mainline owned regional carrier making decent money (read 60Kish) as a first year FO, looking at 3-6 months to upgrade, making the move to F9 really doesn't get you much, unless F9 happens to be the place you want to work long term?

Or am I reading it wrong?
Every airline in the history of airlines has sucked bad at some point... we are firmly entrenched in our, hopefully, lowest point of sucking... I actually think with mediation being filed for already and the boundless incompetence of the locked, inaccessible southwest wingers, we might actually get released in a timely fashion... poop on me for thinking something may go our way but we probably got the best mediator we could've asked for...the only reason to come to frontier is potential... but then again JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were chocked full of potential...
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Old 10-18-2016 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
Every airline in the history of airlines has sucked bad at some point... we are firmly entrenched in our, hopefully, lowest point of sucking... I actually think with mediation being filed for already and the boundless incompetence of the locked, inaccessible southwest wingers, we might actually get released in a timely fashion... poop on me for thinking something may go our way but we probably got the best mediator we could've asked for...the only reason to come to frontier is potential... but then again JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were chocked full of potential...
The suck will continue as long as the current management and ownership remain. Pay will get better eventually but will never be industry leading nor will the QoL conditions be top notch.

Only way to the promised land is via a different (better run) airline or new management.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 10:10 PM
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With the iPads, is there any particular advantage or reason to get a cellular model? I'm not really planning on paying the extra for a data package.
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Old 10-19-2016 | 02:18 AM
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Given that regional first year pay is around 60K now with upgrade within 12-24 months in many cases, many LCC's are not particularly competitive unless you are considering a long term commitment with them. The exceptions right now would be SWA, JB and Allegiant.
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Old 10-19-2016 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptYoda
Given that regional first year pay is around 60K now with upgrade within 12-24 months in many cases, many LCC's are not particularly competitive unless you are considering a long term commitment with them. The exceptions right now would be SWA, JB and Allegiant.
Unreal that Allegiant is a better option tha. NKS & F9 currently. Unreal......I hope it changes for both our airlines soon
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Old 10-19-2016 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
The suck will continue as long as the current management and ownership remain. Pay will get better eventually but will never be industry leading nor will the QoL conditions be top notch.

Only way to the promised land is via a different (better run) airline or new management.
A frontier captain made more than a USAirways 330 captain 10 years ago... QOL really isn't bad here... it's the pay and that'll get better... will you upgrade in 2 years here? No... I've been here well over 2 years and I'm still not really close...

The business practices of management are alarming to say the least but they're here to make money... that's it... and they're good at it... if you could hire 2 equally qualified people to paint your house and you could pay one $20/hr or pay one $50/hr, who would you honestly choose?? They have ZERO incentive to pay us what were worth... for now...
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Old 10-19-2016 | 05:11 AM
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How long before I can hold a commutable line as an F9 FO DEN?
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Old 10-19-2016 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiganFlyer
With the iPads, is there any particular advantage or reason to get a cellular model? I'm not really planning on paying the extra for a data package.
I believe only the cellular capable version has GPS installed. My wifi only model certainly doesn't have it.

Other than that, not really.
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Old 10-19-2016 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dotsero
How long before I can hold a commutable line as an F9 FO DEN?
Approximately 8 years.
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Old 10-19-2016 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiganFlyer
With the iPads, is there any particular advantage or reason to get a cellular model? I'm not really planning on paying the extra for a data package.
Cell models have the GPS, which is handy with or without using a data plan. Particularly if you plan to use it for any, um, family road trips where you want to look at your ownship--er, I mean, car's position on the chart--er, I mean, road map....
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