I think this is pretty spot on, but don't expect this "maybe you're good enough for Frontier" swagger mentality to last long. Frontier will soon need new candidates much more than the new candidates will need Frontier. We lost 10 to the legacy carriers last month and that number is only going to keep climbing. Frontier has huge plans to grow, but this mgmt team is small-minded and short term thinking only. How are they going to staff the large fleet number they plan on achieving when attrition outpaces hiring. You simply can't.

A majority of the people that come here are only coming to bridge the gap...did you hear that JP??? If you think I'm wrong, look at the date of hire attached to those that are leaving! These fools want you to tell them during the interview that you'd never leave for a legacy because you really just want to be part of the Frontier family. We'll let me tell you, a couple months on property at F9 you'll realize that the family only excels at dysfunction.

Nail the interview...what a joke. Honestly guys and again, they need you more than you need them.

 

While that may be the truth, a candidate that went in to an interview with a hint of that kind of attitude will be shown the door.

JN knows the deal. $$ will talk......eventually. If we do not have industry competitive rates, no one in their right mind will come here.

 

I know you are trying to prove a point but "attrition outpaces hiring." Seriously? Please provide facts and not bravado.

 

Attrition is only one part of the equation. We pilots will only see pay increase under two conditions: we run the RLA process through to the self help end point (strike) or the company can't fly their schedule (attrition, inability to hire enough pilots, whatever).

My money is on the RLA.

 

+1 on F9 Driver assessment.

 

How many of those that left were under 2 yrs? Is frontier enforcing the training contract?

 

SPAAKS...love that avatar glad to see the transfer from the pipe. All of those that left were at F9 less than three years. Most less than two. I'm sure they are enforcing the contract, the management here is very cost conscious. But does it really doesn't matter...who would hang around this place when Delta calls???? I'd gladly pay that bill and never look back.

 

To date, Frontier has not enforced the training contract.

 

I have always heard that training contracts are not enforceable in court because it was signed under "duress." I have no idea if this is true, just what was always said.

 

I wouldn't count on that. If you come to Frontier, get hired, sign a contract and then bail for Delta 6 months later, I think Frontier will come for their money. You'll be able to afford it, but I wouldn't assume they won't pursue. And, just because they haven't in the past doesn't mean they won't in the future. I don't know, but I feel uneasy telling people that they don't need to worry or consider a training contract.