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Old 10-10-2021, 11:32 AM
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Do the hours gained during IOE count towards the 100 required consolidation hours?
Legally, per the FAA, yes. Company rules can be different.
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Old 10-10-2021, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by prt135 View Post
Do the hours gained during IOE count towards the 100 required consolidation hours?

No worries that you won’t consolidate, depending on when you get hired and how fast IOE. We have new FOs flying 90+ right now, cause they know who to play with crew scheduling. You can pick up while on reserve and a lot of people don’t know that.


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Old 10-16-2021, 05:43 PM
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No worries that you won’t consolidate, depending on when you get hired and how fast IOE. We have new FOs flying 90+ right now, cause they know who to play with crew scheduling. You can pick up while on reserve and a lot of people don’t know that.
LOL. I’ve been waiting TEN WEEKS for IOE. Only TWO of my classmates from a May hire class have cleared IOE. So YES, the rest of us are worried about consolidation. Perhaps if I get an IOE assignment THIS coming week, and get all 25 hours in one trip (which is unlikely based the trip bids), then I’ll be able to work with scheduling to get the rest of the time within the remaining 37 days. However, I think it’s more practical to be realistic. The good news is there’s still the 30 day extension to take the pressure off, if I can get an IOE assignment soon. The bad news is there’s over 140 pilots behind me in training and no signs that the attrition issue will resolve itself soon. The company can barely hire fast enough to replace their losses. Rumor has it they are prioritizing line check airmen training to resolve the IOE bottleneck, but there is still a wait for the FAA to get the LCAs approved.
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Old 10-20-2021, 12:11 PM
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So I signed up for airline interviews but I don’t know if it will help me much on my interview next week. I’m being told it will be via Microsoft teams online. Can anyone give me details what to expect for the interview ? Thanks.
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Old 10-22-2021, 04:31 PM
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So I signed up for airline interviews but I don’t know if it will help me much on my interview next week. I’m being told it will be via Microsoft teams online. Can anyone give me details what to expect for the interview ? Thanks.
I did an interview in late March of this year, it was on Teams. I had a ‘panel’ interview, which consisted of a recruiter and a pilot. The recruiter will ask typical HR style questions, verifying your application information and ‘tell me about yourself’ or ‘tell me about a time when’, etc. It’s really not hard to get through the recruiter’s bit if you are capable of answering questions without sounding like a total jerk or complete idiot.

The pilot will focus on technical information. Your IFR knowledge should be very sharp, as most of the questions will be related to IFR operations. If you’re instrument proficient it won’t be too bad. If you aren’t familiar with Lido plates, I recommend you do a little internet search. They’re different than Jepp or Gov plates, and don’t have a briefing strip but if you look around you’ll find all the info you’re used to seeing, just in a different format. You may be asked to describe a system on your current aircraft, or you may be asked very generic multi-engine questions. If you don’t know how a turbine engine even works, or some of the typical uses of bleed air, go find out right now. If this isn’t your first type rating then you’ll likely do fine, but expect the technical questions to scale up to your experience level. If you’re coming in with previous 121 experience you can probably expect a couple of questions regarding those regs.

The whole thing takes about an hour to maybe an hour and a half. I suggest wearing something respectable, just like you would for any in person interview.
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:26 PM
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Can a new hire get RIC as a base? If not, how long would it take to be able to get RIC?
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Old 12-25-2021, 12:50 PM
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Can a new hire get RIC as a base? If not, how long would it take to be able to get RIC?
Yes you can, you can get any base except ORD. It’s shrinking right now to grow EWR
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Old 01-05-2022, 05:11 AM
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LOL. I’ve been waiting TEN WEEKS for IOE. Only TWO of my classmates from a May hire class have cleared IOE. So YES, the rest of us are worried about consolidation. Perhaps if I get an IOE assignment THIS coming week, and get all 25 hours in one trip (which is unlikely based the trip bids), then I’ll be able to work with scheduling to get the rest of the time within the remaining 37 days. However, I think it’s more practical to be realistic. The good news is there’s still the 30 day extension to take the pressure off, if I can get an IOE assignment soon. The bad news is there’s over 140 pilots behind me in training and no signs that the attrition issue will resolve itself soon. The company can barely hire fast enough to replace their losses. Rumor has it they are prioritizing line check airmen training to resolve the IOE bottleneck, but there is still a wait for the FAA to get the LCAs approved.
Any update on this?
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Old 01-05-2022, 07:22 PM
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Any update on this?
Yeah, I can update you. It took over 90 days to get an IOE slot. Because of this, I had to go back to the training center to do a landing requal sim. You can lookup the 121 landing currency reg if you’re not familiar on what has to be done if you lose landing currency. It wasn’t too painful, and in fact after sitting that long I was appreciative of a chance to refresh my skills before the IOE firehose. Two days after requalifying my landing currency in the sim, I got my first IOE trip. I was able to accrue around 20 hours that first trip, I got a second trip shortly after thanksgiving. The second IOE trip included my regular line check and a PC to grant the 30 day extension I needed to even have a hope of consolidation. I was able to consolidate (get 100hrs flight time) within 147 days of my checkride, so I made it with 3 days to spare on the final deadline. I was one of three lucky pilots in my class who had enough time using the extension to pull this off.

The rest of my classmates (around 10 guys) went back to a 3 day requal course before even going to IOE because hey didn’t have enough time in their consolidation window to even get through IOE (which needs to be finished before being granted the 30 day extension). These guys are just now seeing IOE, but they’re starting it with totally fresh 120 day consolidation windows that they will not have to worry about. Once a pilot gets into crew scheduling’s rotation they are used to the max. I wanted to be flying the paint off the jets and that’s exactly what I’m doing.

It seems like they are digging out of the hole slowly but surely. I can’t give you any hard data on that, just word of mouth from others. Some of the June hires were able to get IOE and extensions to consolidate. July & August guys are getting their observation flights, but those are easier to schedule than IOE.
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Old 01-09-2022, 06:07 AM
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Yeah, I can update you. It took over 90 days to get an IOE slot. Because of this, I had to go back to the training center to do a landing requal sim. You can lookup the 121 landing currency reg if you’re not familiar on what has to be done if you lose landing currency. It wasn’t too painful, and in fact after sitting that long I was appreciative of a chance to refresh my skills before the IOE firehose. Two days after requalifying my landing currency in the sim, I got my first IOE trip. I was able to accrue around 20 hours that first trip, I got a second trip shortly after thanksgiving. The second IOE trip included my regular line check and a PC to grant the 30 day extension I needed to even have a hope of consolidation. I was able to consolidate (get 100hrs flight time) within 147 days of my checkride, so I made it with 3 days to spare on the final deadline. I was one of three lucky pilots in my class who had enough time using the extension to pull this off.

The rest of my classmates (around 10 guys) went back to a 3 day requal course before even going to IOE because hey didn’t have enough time in their consolidation window to even get through IOE (which needs to be finished before being granted the 30 day extension). These guys are just now seeing IOE, but they’re starting it with totally fresh 120 day consolidation windows that they will not have to worry about. Once a pilot gets into crew scheduling’s rotation they are used to the max. I wanted to be flying the paint off the jets and that’s exactly what I’m doing.

It seems like they are digging out of the hole slowly but surely. I can’t give you any hard data on that, just word of mouth from others. Some of the June hires were able to get IOE and extensions to consolidate. July & August guys are getting their observation flights, but those are easier to schedule than IOE.
ty for the update
so what were you doing for those 90 days?
just sitting home twiddling thumbs?
was requal sim in STL or PHX?
and basically it looks like if you dont make the window+extension for IOE, you just go back for requal and try again?
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