MrIncredible

You can probably get it out of training. ORD will get more lines getting closer to the summer. You’ll probably get reserve for awhile compared to EWR where you might hold a line much faster. Keeps in mind being on reserve in ORD. Most of your trips will probably start as DHs to and from EWR

Wonderoats

Can someone who’s here and familiar with current training delays PM me?

havoste

I can't PM yet, but there is no delay until IOE. Expect to finish checkride within 8-10 weeks from atpctp/indoc.

IOE wait is 2-3 months minimum at the moment for FOs. Supposedly that's coming down with smaller classes but LCA's are leaving faster than they're being produced, so the backlog of 80 or so guys is not being cleared.

STLPilotGod

Payscales can be very misleading. An Ord standup to FWA would pay about 4 hours at GJ but 6.5 at Skywest. A 4 day trip at most regionals would have a guarantee of 16.5 hours ( 4 and 1/8 per day) but at Gojet the first day of the trip has to have an early start and the last day has to have a late ending in order to have min guarantees. Therefore the guarantee for a 4 day trip might only be 8 hours. (Unless recently changed.) Long Term Disability: GJ says it is company paid guaranteeing 60% of your pay. You would think that a guy making 10k a month would then make 6000 a month while on long term, but if you read the small print the guarantee is 60% of pay up to 1000 per month. "The Company shall provide to all pilots who have completed their probationary period, at no cost to the pilot, a LTD insurance policy with benefits equal to sixty percent (60%) of the pilot’s monthly income subject to a monthly maximum benefit of one thousand dollars ($1,000), based on the pilot’s applicable hourly rate times 85 hours, and continuing until the pilot is no longer disabled or until age 65, whichever is earlier."

There is much more to total pay than the pay scale.

ShruteFarm

Anyone here going to March 22 class ? Also, are there any updates about the training delays?

colive10

The part about the min daily guarantee is false. Its a min 4 hour day regardless of start or end time. What you said used to be true but was fixed like 3 or 4 years ago by LOA.

WillRobinsonCRJ

That is good to know. It doesn't change his point though that pay scales are very misleading. Things like minimum daily guarantee, vacations, deadhead pay, standup pay formulas, performance bonuses, and especially the 401k match are about 35% of yearly total pay, maybe more. Oh, and some regionals give lots of pay or incentives regarding holidays, even if you don't fly on the holiday. A one time bonus of 40k paid over 4 years and 50% match up to 3% 401k sounds good but not compared to an 11000 per year bonus with 100% 401k match on 10% of salary.

A pilot comparing jobs needs to learn all these things before he commits. Also, if you are paid a bonus, what happens if you leave a few months later or a couple of years? Is the bonus contract in writing? Republic's old training contract required you to pay them 24k if you left in the first 2 years or if the company went out of business.

aerocmdr

How are the training footprints and reserve times looking these days? Considering coming over from another company whose training delays are egregious and commuting to EWR from the southeast. Thanks!

whatdidATCsay

Training dept is saying most if not all the down time gaps have been filled in. youll go indoc systems sims ioe to the line almost, ALMOST, back to back. Biggest delay will likely still be between check and IOE but ive heard of ppl getting called within a couple weeks of checking.

aerocmdr

Glad to hear things have improved. Thanks!