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Old 05-24-2022, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by regional60pilot View Post
About how long would it take to get ORD?
You can get ORD right out of training, at Skywest. But if you want to be east of the Mississippi all they have is ORD, DTW, and ATL. They can't give you EWR or RIC as we can. As the old expression says, "Head East Young Man!"
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Old 06-03-2022, 07:17 AM
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Latest bid has RIC, STL awarded right after of training (3 months from date of hire). ORD approx 6 months after DOH.
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Old 06-25-2022, 04:54 PM
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new hire FOs are looking at a very very long time on reserve, like maybe a year plus as it currently stands. EWR lines are decreasing and more flying being added to ORD. Reserve times are due to captain shortage.
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Old 06-25-2022, 06:10 PM
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Yup- although there are zero training delays, reserve time in all bases has blown out to a year. Reserves are not being used either so the prospect of building 1000hrs and upgrading is gone too.

No sign of a solution, they have halted newhire FO classes for a couple months to send instructors back online.

No response to the AA wholly-owned payrises either, will be interesting to see attrition over the next few months.
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Old 06-27-2022, 11:32 AM
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Stopping FO training to bring instructors to the line with management leaving has shut down written all over it. Sounds like they have already decided to not even try to match AA rates. That was a foregone conclusion as they were already hurting before that. Same thing happened at TSA. Funny how short the memory of how GJ was started. The present owner and upper management blatantly violated the TSA labor agreement and won in court on two words. Gojet holdings instead of Gojet airlines. They have never looked back and have been a sham of an airline ever since. Still think they can fire people for whatever they want. Bet that still stings Hulas today after the payouts he lost. Almost none of the employees today were associated with the TSA end run. But management is a different story. They are a ruthless bunch who don’t give a hoot about employees. I will be glad to see this ownership and management get the final hook, they deserve it. The employees are not at fault but if you accept employment at a scab airline you do have some association to those past and present crooks. What they did to TSA is going to finally come back to them and bite them in the ass. Good luck to employees and good bye to Hulas and his yes men crooks. The industry will be better off with them in the airline grave yard. When he shut down TSA a one week notice was given. Just enough to fly airplanes to the desert. No severance or any type of package. I think they gave out some sort it memorabilia stuff as a parting shot. Any decent company would have done something for the employees. Not Hulas, he will not be around this earth much longer and he will leave a legacy of one of the worst management groups to ever run an airline.
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Old 06-28-2022, 05:29 PM
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Any new rumors here from last week?
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by havoste View Post
Yup- although there are zero training delays, reserve time in all bases has blown out to a year. Reserves are not being used either so the prospect of building 1000hrs and upgrading is gone too.

No sign of a solution, they have halted newhire FO classes for a couple months to send instructors back online.
Is this new hire FO thing real? I have an FO class coming up... has anyone been contacted to delay their new hire class? I haven't.
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:49 AM
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Is this new hire FO thing real? I have an FO class coming up... has anyone been contacted to delay their new hire class? I haven't.
Been on the Gojet forum for a few years now. Maybe 50% is real…on a good day.
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Old 07-01-2022, 10:27 AM
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Just looked at PSA web sight to see their pay levels. I was was shocked to see their flight attendants are being paid $2.00 per diem. Go Jet pilots are $1.90 as of today. The entire Go Jet pay scale will have to be bumped just to get the pilots above FA levels. PSA pilots are making $90.00 first year FO pay. I don't see Hulas paying his FO's and Cpt a PSA wage. As long as anyone accepting employment at GJ understands who they are working for they can use it as a leg to a company who will at least show some interest in the employees. You have to understand they cut the throats of TSA pilots when they did the end run around the TSA labor agreement and started up GJ. They just were to cheap to pay TSA pilots an industry average (NOT INDUSYRY LEADING) wage to fly 70 seat jets. So they blantently disreguarded the agreement that they had signed to not start another airline. By using the holdings stipulation in the GJ airline they were able to get a judge to say that the TSA labor agreement did not apply to GJ. The agreement with TSA was quite specific and management signed it knowing exactly what it meant. So the same team that is there today (same owner) took a criminal route to screw the TSA pilots and did not blink an eye. This is who you are working for at GJ, technically a scab airline who just does as they please with no reguard for employees past or present. If none of that has any concern for you they might be a good fit for a short stay. Just know you will have the association with a scab airline forever and there are many pilots in the industry today who know exactly what transpired with GJ. Now this does not mean you will not be able to move on to a better company just because you worked for a scab airline. It seems with the shortage of today nothing that they did is a negative going forward. Having said that I am certain there are pilots in interview or hiring positions who will never forget the GJ crime and might not look favoribly upon someone who worked for GJ. That is just a dice roll. For many years mainline pilots had GJ lists of pilots and if you tried to JS they found a way to send you away. The concept of a scab airline is dirty business. Today the whole GJ image is portrayed as rainbows and unicorns. They have managed to use time as an effective tool to bury their crimes and most people at GJ today probably are not even aware of this criminal managnent now running GJ. I have to give them some credit for being clever criminals and today they appear to be removed from their past at least to some degree. My thoughts on GJ today are there so many choices out there to work for an airline without associating with a scab airline I don't know why one would stain there karma but that is just me. Today it would appear GJ has hit a point of not competing with the WO regionals and they will be forced out just from a pure numbers perspective. GJ had a pretty good run but I guess there past is catching up to them and they will die a quick death this year. There is no place in any industry for criminal management and airlines are no different.
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Old 07-03-2022, 12:03 PM
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What’s the commitment for the 50,000 DEC bonus and 30,000 CRJ type rating? When do you get paid each bonus?
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